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And it will make permanent enemies of millions of Hispanics, without doing anything to draw illegals out of the shadows and help them assimilate into the mainstream of American culture and citizenship....

I didn't see too many friendlies in the streets this week!

1 posted on 03/31/2006 3:41:17 AM PST by pageonetoo
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This is not Ronald Reagan's view of America as a "shining city on a hill." It is the chauvinist conservatism usually associated with the European right.

This is first and foremost Mexico's problem--not ours. I don't recall Reagan saying to the corrupt Mexican gvernment, "You're off the hook. The American taxpayer will take care of your people so you don't have to."

66 posted on 03/31/2006 5:12:49 AM PST by JCEccles
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"Or will they take another one of their historical detours into a cramped, exclusionary policy that tells millions of new immigrants, and especially Hispanics, that they belong somewhere else?..."

What a load of crap. This isn't about immigrants. It is about ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. A huge difference. Maybe it doesn't bother the country club republicans who sit on the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal but it sure as hell bothers me that i'm having to fund schools, prison, and social services for people who aren't US citizens and who don't respect the laws of this country. They want people like me to continue to subsidize the cost of their cheap labor but i'm sick of it and i'm sick of a wave of immigrants who have no interest in becoming American and learning our customs and the English languague. I'm angry as hell about watching the American flag flown upside down and armies of young people waving Mexican flags in our streets.


69 posted on 03/31/2006 5:14:57 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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The Wall Street Journal probably has racist managers who only hire legal Americans. I think it's time for them to step up to the plate in the name of tolerance and diversity, and hire some illegal Mexicans to write editorials at the rate of $3.00 an hour.


80 posted on 03/31/2006 5:24:41 AM PST by Mini-14
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The whole cost of immigrants question could be solved pretty quickly with a replacement of income taxes with a sales tax. This won't solve security issues or some other issues, but it would certainly solve the big financial burden question.


86 posted on 03/31/2006 5:29:47 AM PST by cowtowney
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The WSJ is as credible on immigration and border security as is Hillary Clinton, the Chamber of Commerce, or La Raza ("The Race").


93 posted on 03/31/2006 5:38:50 AM PST by reelfoot
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Has open borders done much for conservatism in California?


110 posted on 03/31/2006 6:20:56 AM PST by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! "From the halls of Montezuma...")
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>>>"Any bill that merely harasses immigrants and employers"

They left out the world "illegal"

As in "illegal alien." This debate is over illegals - criminals who break our laws from the start. Can't the Wall Street Journal say the word "illegal?"


129 posted on 03/31/2006 6:51:42 AM PST by Hop A Long Cassidy
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Tancredo has my vote if he runs.


150 posted on 03/31/2006 8:32:18 AM PST by samcgwire (samcgwire was not here today)
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"Immigration and the GOP Is it still the party of Reagan, or of Tom Tancredo?"

Tancredo, I hope. Reagan was willing to admit mistakes (like when he started out as a liberal) and his mid-80s amnesty was a huge mistake. We can't repeat that mistake again.

Tancredo BUMP.


175 posted on 03/31/2006 10:22:26 AM PST by reelfoot
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What a crock of bantha foodoo.

The Hispanics who are here illegally, have NO intention of assimilating into anything. It's obvious because they bring their culture, their language, their music and traditions with them.

If they want to come be Americans, then BE Americans, leave that pisshole country they come from behind and do it LEGALLY!


176 posted on 03/31/2006 10:22:58 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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However, it will do nothing to address the economic incentives that will continue to exist for poor migrants to come to America to feed their families.

Why don't they say what they really want? They want slavery re-instituted in the United States. Afterall, weren't blacks brougtht over to do the jobs Americans didn't want to do: work the fields, clean the houses and be nannies for their children?

186 posted on 03/31/2006 10:59:15 AM PST by jellybean (Illegal imigration: The modern slavery)
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Is it still the party of Reagan, or of Tom Tancredo?

Reagan was then.
Tancredo is now.

Times have changed, as has the nature of immigration. If we are blind to those changes, we stand to be overwhelmed.

I will vote for Tancredo over _any_ other Republican name on a primary ballot.

- John

201 posted on 03/31/2006 1:44:39 PM PST by Fishrrman
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"A nation without borders is not a nation"
RW Reagan
203 posted on 03/31/2006 1:59:09 PM PST by skeeter
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More immigrants especially illegal ones means more democrats..
Who could in good concience be for THAT..

WHAT?... the republican party and White House?..
Yeah yer right.. Darn.. How'd THAT happen..

213 posted on 03/31/2006 6:21:06 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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TANCREDO-RICE '08!

227 posted on 04/01/2006 4:10:10 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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En Español:
¡TANCREDO-RICE '08!

228 posted on 04/01/2006 4:17:03 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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...continue in the Reagan tradition of American optimism and faith in assimilation.

optomism and faith in assimilation!!

I still have it, and that's exactly WHY I am opposed to this blanket guest-worker-amnesty farce.

These new border jumpers have no more desire to assimilate than does a jellyfish desire to breath on land.

229 posted on 04/01/2006 4:20:48 AM PST by Edit35
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I've just about had it with all these eastern folks slamming us on immigration. I think we in the border states shoud start issuing one way tickets to New York, DC, and MA.

My neighbor, who is a LEGAL immigrant from Mexico, suggested we print up flyers and tell the illegals just how many free services are available back east.

259 posted on 04/02/2006 11:47:14 PM PDT by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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To wit, do Republicans want to continue in the Reagan tradition of American optimism and faith in assimilation

Reagan signed what was to be a ONE TIME amnesty bill for illegals. The RINOs and Rat want to undo the Reagan position.

260 posted on 04/03/2006 12:05:06 AM PDT by Mojave
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