[NZerFromHK]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but The Times is regarded the Establishment paper. Not really leftist and usually very slightly moderately conservative. But it seems to trail the editorial line of the Guardian by 10 years.

[snugs]

Yes the Times is the establishment paper. The one that the city elite would read on the train to work and compete with each other to complete the crossword each morning.

The Guardian is more the "establishment"/quality paper for Liberals historically (our third party) but in recent years has gone lefter and lefter and now is more Socialist than Liberal. At the same time the Liberal Party has moved more to the left as well.

For Conservative/right wing readers the quality newspaper is the Daily Telegraph but you are correct the Times is still regarded as the establishment newspaper even though News International own it.

Incidentally News International (who own FOX) also own our tabloid Sun as well which of recent times has switched from Conservative support to Labour which may explain why the Times has shifted slightly as well.