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That last phrase is the key -

These kids all know their Dad, or Uncle Jose, or that cousin who stayed for a few weeks last summer are illegals.

This bill brings it home to them that THEY may be guilty of criminal actions.

Perhaps a short class should be taught on the current state of "aiding and abetting" laws ?

1 posted on 04/02/2006 8:00:44 AM PDT by RS
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I thought helping an illegal (anything) was illegal. Although I support the bill in congress now I can't help but think these actions are criminal acts today and will be in the future.


2 posted on 04/02/2006 8:13:30 AM PDT by VMSguy
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Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!


3 posted on 04/02/2006 8:19:34 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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I am now at a loss as to what is the worst scenario for our country. Take over by the terrorist or take over my Mexico. Either is bad and it looks as if Mexico is in front for the take over. Will Fox be the next President?
4 posted on 04/02/2006 8:20:09 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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That 4437, where anyone who helps someone illegal is a criminal.”

It's called aiding and abetting, puta!
5 posted on 04/02/2006 8:23:02 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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"Immigration bill turned quiet voices into a roar"

Well, speaking from the other side from Miss Cervantes---ever notice how quiet it gets just before a tornado?

6 posted on 04/02/2006 8:26:10 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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Amy Cervantes, 17, said she learned about the House bill at school and on television.
"It's that law," she said of her reason for participating, though the House bill has not yet become law.

It's that bill!

It's that law!

It's that bill that's not a law!

"That 4437, where anyone who helps someone illegal is a criminal."

 

11 posted on 04/02/2006 8:37:07 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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“That 4437, where anyone who helps someone illegal is a criminal.”

IMHO: that is the straw man argument since that will never happen.

13 posted on 04/02/2006 9:34:20 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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“That 4437, where anyone who helps someone illegal is a criminal.”

"4437" does not make it illegal to "help someone illegal". Section 205 of H.R. 4437 amends Section 277 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).

The INA already codified the crime and spelled out a penalty. H.R. 4437 amended the language of INA section 277, and changed the penalty a little.

Also, the crime is described as knowingly assisting an inadmissible alien to enter the USA. This is a very specific crime, and it is foolish to misrepresent the crime and/or the bill by making statements to the effect that 4437 makes it a felony to help an illegal immigrant. It is foolish because it is this sort of shrill overstatement that is used to foster opposition to newer/better border protection policies. The MSM promotes this sort of misinformation and apparently loves to mislead the public.

16 posted on 04/02/2006 10:26:42 AM PDT by delacoert (imperat animus corpori, et paretur statim: imperat animus sibi, et resistitur. -AUGUSTINI)
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“The House bill passed in December, and it took a while for people to digest what they did,” said Cecilia Muñoz, vice president of National Council of La Raza in Washington, D.C.


snip


Angelica Salas of the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles, which helped organize a massive march in Los Angeles last weekend


The National Council of La Raza urged students last week to channel their energy in other ways, such as e-mailing congressional representatives.

21 posted on 04/02/2006 11:37:15 AM PDT by kcvl
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It's already against the law to aid and abet illegals...even religious organizations. They just aren't enforced. I'm not stupid enough to believe any new laws would be either.


26 posted on 04/02/2006 11:53:55 AM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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