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To: Gopher Broke; little jeremiah; scripter; DirtyHarryY2K; DBeers; ovrtaxt; Unam Sanctam; RacerF150; ..
Hey Everybody,

I have posted before and I am worried I am going to start sounding like a broken record. I am a man who has dealt with some issues around homosexuality, so I know from whence I speak.

I just got back from a counseling session tonight. I have posted about my therapy in other threads. By some act of an incredibly merciful God, I found the best counselor in the world for dealing with these issues (there are about three professional counselors in the U.S. who deal with homosexuality who are worth anything, that I know of). How did it work for me? This Saturday I will be shopping for an engagement ring and going to ask the sweetest, most wonderful woman in the world to marry me. I would never have reached this day if it wasn't for the counseling sessions I went to for the past three years. Now my counseling sessions are winding down. I'll probably stop soon. Job done.

It is hard to describe what I feel when I read articles like this, about people who prevent people who struggle with homosexuality from obtaining information about getting help. Great sadness, followed by anger.

There is so much I can say. First I want to thank you good people for being concerned about this issue. At the end of the day, a "fixed" homosexual orientation only affects 2 or 3 percent of the population, so most people don't think about it too deeply. They just believe what they see on T.V. So the people on this thread at least have the ability or care enough to look beyond the surface. It's encouraging to me that you guys are out there.

Does anyone see the self-fulfilling prophecy in all this? Counselors aren't allowed access to information, so they don't learn how to help people struggling with homosexuality, so the strugglers don't get good help and remain stuck. This becomes the proof that homosexuality is "inborn" and can't be changed! Unbelievable.
23 posted on 04/04/2006 10:36:21 PM PDT by SoulMan
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To: SoulMan

That's an awesome testimony! I have had similar experience- not so much with homosexuality, but with sexual addiction in general. I ended up actually having a salvation experience many years ago, and now I help others.

Pop culture is still pretty much owned by people like the control freaks in this article, but individuals like us can overtake it in time. Have a blessed marriage- it's a blast! Been married 13 years myself. :)


24 posted on 04/05/2006 5:08:09 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: SoulMan
Does anyone see the self-fulfilling prophecy in all this? Counselors aren't allowed access to information, so they don't learn how to help people struggling with homosexuality, so the strugglers don't get good help and remain stuck. This becomes the proof that homosexuality is "inborn" and can't be changed! Unbelievable.
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And the counselors who do seek out information and do try to learn more are shunned by their colleagues.

Professionals care MORE about the opinion of their other professionals than they do about their clients or patients. And,,,that's the truth.
25 posted on 04/05/2006 5:16:03 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: SoulMan
Congratulations!!! And thank youso much for telling us about this. It is such a blessing to know that people are getting cured and they are able to live fulfilling lives. (I mean to know first hand)

May God bless you and your soon to be fiance abundantly in all ways.

29 posted on 04/05/2006 6:38:18 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: SoulMan

BTTT for your comments.

The truth set people free; lies enslave. It's that simple.


30 posted on 04/05/2006 8:17:21 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: SoulMan

I think it is even more incidious.

I think the homoadvocates are essentially trying to arrest the normal devopment of children to never leave the "girls are icky" stage.

If anything the homosexual "clubs" approved by the PTA and promoted by GLSEN should be treated the same as any other child sex solicitation group. (see the arrests of travel agencies to asia for such sex tourism)


31 posted on 04/05/2006 8:46:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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