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Irish were Latinos of their day
The Denver Post ^ | 4/01/2006 | Bob Ewegen

Posted on 04/04/2006 5:34:55 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: ansel12

Most of the new immigrants were drafted into the WBTS. That is why there were the draft riots in New York.


81 posted on 04/04/2006 6:09:21 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: John Filson

It seems like now you are quibbling over words. Ok, so wetback refers to someone who swims across the Rio Grande to enter the US. Not all illegal immigrants cross that way- so you don't mind the ones who hide in a car, since they aren't wetbacks?

The point I was getting at is that it undermines the legitimate discussion on FR to use derogatory epithets when there are plenty of fair, accurate options. Using words like 'wetbacks' on FR is handing the leftists who call FR bigoted their talking points on a silver platter.


82 posted on 04/04/2006 6:09:31 PM PDT by stormlead
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To: alarm rider

swap racist with derogatory and you get the idea. Btw, what are the three?


83 posted on 04/04/2006 6:10:41 PM PDT by stormlead
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To: Acts 2:38

Many hispanics are also white. Not sure what your point is.


84 posted on 04/04/2006 6:10:43 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: Acts 2:38

Weren't/aren't the Irish called 'Black' in Europe?


85 posted on 04/04/2006 6:11:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: neverdem
I was wondering how long it would take for the leftists to come up with this BS argument. They are relying on the fact that their leftist brethren in education have taught Americans so little factual history that this will be believed. Maybe this imbecile should actually go to Ellis Island and see where each of these immigrants was recorded and entered legally.
86 posted on 04/04/2006 6:11:44 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: stormlead
Using words like 'wetbacks' on FR is handing the leftists who call FR bigoted their talking points on a silver platter.

I'm not sure that's true. I think catering to the expectations set by the politically correct, especially in a case like this, is giving in where it isn't necessary.

If it were truly racist, I might agree with you, but it definitely isn't. Activists on the left have made it that way, but I say we shouldn't let them dictate the language of our debate.

87 posted on 04/04/2006 6:11:46 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: cyborg

Something we are all leaving out, is that Mexicans fought on both sides as well, mostly for the "invaders"


88 posted on 04/04/2006 6:11:52 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: HungarianGypsy

" The difference between the Irish and the illegal immigrants, though. The Irish came through Ellis Island and weren't sneaking over the border to get in. There's that whole legal thing again. "

www.ellisisland.org is a great resource .
We found the ship's manifest for my paternal grandmother and it gave us goosebumps to see her name listed and imagine her journey.
Immigrants coming through Ellis Island had to undergo a legal and medical examination.
Not likely under a mesquite bush by the Rio Grande.

"The two main reasons why an immigrant would be excluded were if a doctor diagnosed that the immigrant had a contagious disease that would endanger the public health
or if a legal inspector thought the immigrant was likely to become a public charge
or an illegal contract laborer."
Hmmmm....
I'm tired of the dying media equating the plight of my grandparents to those of today's Mexican " guest " workers.
My grandparents wanted to start a new life in America, they wanted to become Americans and they came legally.
What a concept.


89 posted on 04/04/2006 6:11:54 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Acts 2:38
Human nature gives us the preference for one's own "tribe."

Nothing racist about that.

Matthew 5:46-48

"46": For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

"47": And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

"48": Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Believe me when I say I have no right to criticize...and submit this only as a brother.

90 posted on 04/04/2006 6:12:01 PM PDT by Dark Skies (This is not a war between good and evil, but between evil and the Truth.)
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To: trubluolyguy

I don't get the racism argument. Is French a race now too like Mexican is?


91 posted on 04/04/2006 6:12:46 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Did the Irish come over hear waving the flag of their native country

In a sense, they changed it a bit.


92 posted on 04/04/2006 6:13:20 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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93 posted on 04/04/2006 6:13:26 PM PDT by MOgirl (Hillary. She's a totalitarian freak. And you know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: neverdem

I'm not against Latinos. I just want this country to have the same control over it's borders that other countries have. That's apparently too much for some people.


94 posted on 04/04/2006 6:13:44 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Well, they did try to burn NYC down during the war between the states. Haven't seen the hispanic immigrants try that yet.


95 posted on 04/04/2006 6:14:49 PM PDT by gotribe (Just tired of going easy on islam)
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To: gotribe

That's true.


96 posted on 04/04/2006 6:15:33 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

That would be awesome to find those records. I haven't found my great grandparent's records. Just my great great uncle at Castle Gardens. He was the one who sponsored my great grandparents and the rest of his family so they could get in here.


97 posted on 04/04/2006 6:15:38 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (I'm writing a post to a message board. I don't care if it's not grammatically perfect.)
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To: ansel12

This is true.


98 posted on 04/04/2006 6:15:55 PM PDT by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: neverdem

Irish were Latinos of their day



But the latinos have better food.


99 posted on 04/04/2006 6:17:24 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: neverdem
The wetbacks are proud that their government is a Drug Cartel.. proud of a history of assuming the position to a group of elites.. proud of the concepts of peon and patron.. proud of a whole history and culture of loosing freedom to banditos..

The Mexican culture is a culture of banditos.. and victims..
The Mexicans are NOT Irish.. or even Canadians that have some of the same culture..

100 posted on 04/04/2006 6:18:39 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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