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Posted on 04/05/2006 5:49:19 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
Academic papers posted on a Harvard Web site don't normally attract enthusiastic praise from prominent white supremacists. But John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt's "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" has won David Duke's endorsement as "a modern Declaration of American Independence" and a vindication of the ex-Klansman's earlier work, presumably including his pathbreaking book, "Jewish Supremacism."
Walt and Mearsheimer contend that American national security dictates distancing ourselves from the state of Israel; that U.S. support for Israel has led to such disasters as America's status as the No. 1 target for Islamic terrorists; and that such an otherwise inexplicable departure from good sense can be accounted for only by the power of "The Lobby" (their capitalization), an overwhelmingly Jewish force abetted by some Christian evangelicals and a gentile neocon collaborator or two, who have hijacked American foreign policy and controlled it for decades.
One of Mearsheimer's University of Chicago colleagues has characterized this as "piss-poor, monocausal social science." -----------------break--------
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
It appears as though Mr. Cohen is more intent on justifying the Israeli lobby than denying it exists.
Everyone has a lobby. Everyone has a right to a lobby. No one has a monopoly on defining what America's best intrests are.
I tend to think the anti-semites who wrote this document that David Duke is currently praising to the heavans are far less in America's best intrest than people who lobby the US Government on behalf of Israel.
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Why? Are they advocating racial or religious hatred of Jews? It certainly doesn't appear so.
Me: These authors are clearly anti-semitic
Hermann: Why? Are they advocating racial or religious hatred of Jews? It certainly doesn't appear so.
What convinced me was this line "The Lobby" (their capitalization), an overwhelmingly Jewish force abetted by some Christian evangelicals and a gentile neocon collaborator or two, who have hijacked American foreign policy and controlled it for decades."
All good points.
Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel.
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Baloney! Islam has initiated warfare against any culture they've come into contact with. They have done this for 1400 years now. Israel did not even exist for 27/28 of that time period.
That is a statement of a perceived fact. It may or may not be true, but there is certainly nothing hateful in the statement that implies an irrational dislike of Jews by the authors.
Cries of anti-semitism about this paper simply reinforce the common view that what is really "anti-semitic" is anything that Jews and their friends don't like or disagree with.
A good friend of mine once shocked me by going on a anti-Jew barstool rant that came out of nowhere. I’ve never really respected him since. I’ve never understood where sentiments like this come from. I have a hard time noticing somebody is Jewish when I’m looking right at them. Other people sense evil and danger whenever a Jew is around. Anti-Semitism is the strangest thing. It’s seem so irrational and without basis in anything. Maybe you cold help me out, by explaining how and where you acquired it. How old were you when this all started? Do you hate blacks, Catholics, or any other group? Or, is it just those damn Jews and their retched state? Were you exposed to diatribes by a relative as a child? Do you have any other phobias like fear of germs or government agents? Do you generally have a social life or do the people that know you consider you a crank?
Of course, I’ve never met you, and I’m sure you consider yourself completely non-bigoted, but phrases like “Jews and their friends” reveal a hostility you can deny if you want, but is obvious. Just curious how you arrived at this state.
Well, there was one - S. Africa - and we helped to destroy it.
What is so incorrect about it? Most critiques here seem to have begun and ended like this one with cries of "anti-semite!"
When I look around elsewhere, such as here:
http://www.slate.com/id/2138741/
I find statements saying that what they write is generally true but exaggerated.
"The essay itself, mostly a very average "realist" and centrist critique of the influence of Israel, contains much that is true and a little that is original. But what is original is not true and what is true is not original.
"Everybody knows that the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and other Jewish organizations exert a vast influence over Middle East policy, especially on Capitol Hill. The influence is not as total, perhaps, as that exerted by Cuban exiles over Cuba policy, but it is an impressive demonstration of strength by an ethnic minority."
Exaggeration of truisms hardly seems a form of hatred.
"Well, there was one - S. Africa - and we helped to destroy it."
South Africa was not a democracy - it was an oligarchy.
Since I haven't gotten the anti-semite virus, I don't know how old I was.
Do you hate blacks,
No.
Catholics,
I am Catholic.
or any other group?
Yes. Commmunists, socialisits, homosexuals, and abortionists.
Or, is it just those damn Jews and their retched state?
I rather like Israel, but find them schizophrenic.
Were you exposed to diatribes by a relative as a child?
No. My parents are flaming liberals.
Do you have any other phobias like fear of germs or government agents?
I don't particularly care fo great heights.
Do you generally have a social life or do the people that know you consider you a crank?
How about this. I live in the Fever Swamp. So just finish drawing your own conclusions. Its not like you haven't already.
Of course, I’ve never met you, and I’m sure you consider yourself completely non-bigoted, but phrases like “Jews and their friends” reveal a hostility you can deny if you want, but is obvious.
How so? Are Jews not a group of people, and do they not have friends (for example, evangelical Christians) and enemies (for example, radical Muslims)? Its hostile to Jews to observe that some people like Jews and others don't?
Is the phrase "Catholics and their friends" a phrase of hostility? How about "Amish and their friends"?
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