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1 posted on 04/05/2006 9:17:46 AM PDT by Neville72
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2 posted on 04/05/2006 9:19:39 AM PDT by AntiGuv (The 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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Very interesting news. I wonder if the oil producers will be able to bury this?


3 posted on 04/05/2006 9:19:54 AM PDT by scooter2
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could be a major step toward making them affordable

I'll be waiting down by the ethanol pump.

4 posted on 04/05/2006 9:20:19 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (I miss President Reagan.)
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Even if they can get the cost comparable to a gasoline/diesel IC engine, the cost of the fuel will still be prohibitive. Hydrogen is hideously expensive to make and methanol, while cheaper than hydrogen, still takes more energy to create that you can get out of it.


5 posted on 04/05/2006 9:21:28 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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Fuel Cells and all other power producing methods will never work, science and engineering are at a standstill, oil will always be the only way that power can be produced for anything, and when it runs out (but it won't: reference Abiotic "don't worry be happy theory") we'll all go back to the caves.

Right?

/Standard FR Luddite Rant

6 posted on 04/05/2006 9:24:33 AM PDT by Regulator
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Bio-neural circuitry from Voyager coming next!
7 posted on 04/05/2006 9:26:51 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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I would like to have a fuel cell running my house. The government won't allow it. If I get rid of the power company I risk having my house condemned as being unfit for human occupation. The same goes for water and gas. WRT automobiles, who is going to pay the gas taxes?
8 posted on 04/05/2006 9:30:10 AM PDT by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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I wonder if this will work with natural gas.

That would make fuel-celled homes easy to accomplish (if you already have NG).


11 posted on 04/05/2006 10:03:44 AM PDT by babyface00
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The article appears pretty misleading. The membrane material is STILL a form of Nafion--just with some added cross-linking agent and an added surface pattern. Not really a fundamentally new piece of materials sciene.

The quoted performance improvements "are" impressive, but I think they still need to get away from fluorocarbon polymer skeletons to get the costs down more.

15 posted on 04/05/2006 10:08:14 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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