Posted on 04/06/2006 5:58:45 AM PDT by RWR8189
CHICAGO -- Illinois' northernmost bit is north of Cape Cod and its southern tip is south of Richmond, Va. Scattered the length of the state, from the Wisconsin to the Kentucky border, are fragments of wreckage from the state party that produced the first Republican president -- who was born in Kentucky and nominated by a Republican Party born in Wisconsin, at Ripon.
In the last four presidential elections, Republican candidates have averaged just 40 percent of the Illinois vote. In 2004, the Republican Senate candidate, a raging resident of Maryland, won just 27 percent of the vote. Judy Topinka, 62, the effervescent three-term state treasurer and Republican gubernatorial nominee against Gov. Rod Blagojevich, thinks she can put Humpty Dumpty together again. Republicans everywhere should hope a new poll is accurate in showing her three points ahead among registered voters.
In California, Republican presidential candidates have not been competitive for three elections. Since 1994, when California Republicans backed an anti-immigrant measure offensive to the Latino population that now is more than one-third of the state's population, Republicans have won an average of just 41 percent of the presidential vote.
In New York, where Republican presidential candidates in the last four elections have averaged just 35 percent, one candidate for the Senate nomination against Hillary Clinton this year has zero political experience and less than zero credibility, having inflated her resume. And if the state party chairman gets his way, the senatorial candidate will be a former Yonkers mayor, who as a married man had two children with his unmarried chief of staff, which he says was "ironically'' fine because "I didn't have to make an appointment with my chief of staff to go over everything.'' (He has now married her.)
From Illinois, California and New York, Democratic presidential nominees currently
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I know that a lot of social conservatives are very disenchanted with her and probably wouldn't vote for her.
But I figure she's gotta be an improvement over Illinois' current governor.
At the very least, Judy Baar-Topinka would be a check on the Democrat-controlled state legislature.
Maybe if she were a Republican she could.
Her appeal is a mystery to me but people do vote for her. Since conservatives torpedoed themselves by keeping Brady in the race they gave her the nomination. Ugh. But I don't believe these polls in any case and expect Rod to win. While he was running for the House I met him shaking hands and declined his suggestion to vote for him by saying I voted Republican. He said "thats ok my mother is a Republican."
She can turn IL 'red' alright. Make it freaking Communist. There is no difference between her and our current ijit RAT gubnor, Blago - except he has nicer hair.
Judas is of the criminal Combine enterprise school of gubmint which begot soon to be convicted FELON, Lyin' - Bribes For Licenses - George Ryan, RINO and CROOK.
Furthermore, Judas is as much of a 'republican' as I am a Thoracic Surgeon. She and the rest of the IL GOP insider gun grabbing 'moderates' can rot in Hades.
Conservatives everywhere, however, might have a different opinion.
It'd be great!
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She can turn IL 'red' alright. Make it freaking Communist.
She can turn IL 'red' alright. Make it freaking Communist.
She can turn IL 'red' alright. Make it freaking Communist.
She can turn IL 'red' alright. Make it freaking Communist.
-- Condor 51
Great, just what we need.
"Maybe if she were a Republican she could."
Sadly, she is not a Republican and she does not have a hope of getting rid of Rod. There is just no difference that I can see between Judy & Rod... except that Judy has a deeper voice.
No thanks. We don't need any more RINOs, thanks very much George Will. They're absolutely killing us in the Senate.
Apparently to some, just having an (R) after your name is sufficient. Never mind the fact that Judy Bar Sinister doesn't have a Conservative bone in her body or that she acts more like a dimmocrat than the dimmocrats do.
The unfortuante voters of Illinois have no good feasible choices.
The whole "RINO governors magically DELIVER their states to the GOP" concept should be buried. We've been able to test this little "theory" nationwide under George Ryan, George Pataki, Tom Ridge, Christie Todd Witless, Jane Swift, Linda Lingle, and of course, Ahhhhhhhnuld. Conclusion: RINOs "deliver" for NOBODY but the left.
TooPinka and Bag-o-$hit are virtual clones on the issues. I think the only option in November is voting third party (and I say this as someone who thought Cal Skinner and his "JimRod the two headed turkey" third party message in the 2002 governor's race was stupid. (and to this day I think Jim Ryan, despite all his flaws, was far preferable to Rod's numbskill adminstration)
I'm not completely in Shufflebeam's corner yet but I'm keeping my options open to see if we can put forth the best third party candidate we can find.
What about all those lovely "fiscal conservatives"? Does Judas "leadership" in fighting to raise the state sales tax when she was in the general assembly, doubling the budget of the treasurer's office, and merrily signing off on George Ryan's tax-and-spend "Illinois First" scheme resemble ANY measure of "fiscal conservatism"? Ron Gidwitz is one of those nice "social moderates" and he attacked her leftist fiscal record more than anyone else.
>> But I figure she's gotta be an improvement over Illinois' current governor. <<
How so? Name one issue. I suppose on paper, Judas CLAIMS she'd lift the death penalty moritorium, but her opponent HotRod CLAIMS he will never raise state taxes, and "fiscally conservative" Judas won't even say the same. She's arguably to the LEFT of Rod on several issues!
>> At the very least, Judy Baar-Topinka would be a check on the Democrat-controlled state legislature <<
Since when? Was our last RINO Governor a check or a rubber stamp on the libs in the legislature? George Ryan eagerly enacted their agenda. I seem to recall them fawning over his gay-friendly, big-taxin' policies. He gave 'em a "check" all right!
On Wed., I heard Judas interviewed by Spike O'Dell. She said that, according to a recent poll, 80% of Illinois Republicans said that they'll vote for her. I was surprised because about 2/3 of Republicans I know are conservative and won't vote for her.
I Agree with all of the above. But the fact is that the combine thinks the "base" has no where else to go. And the combine will do well in November due to effective strategy and tactics, an area where we are MIA.
If Meeks enters the race, consider that he might be the lesser evil, which is the argument for supporting the other evil. Supporting Meeks would not be about supporting his ideas. It would be a shot accross the bow that we can and will go somewhere else.
Sorry for you Shuffleupagus supporters. But history has proven that route does not work.
---"On Wed., I heard Judas interviewed by Spike O'Dell. She said that, according to a recent poll, 80% of Illinois Republicans said that they'll vote for her."---
Who are these people, and where do they live? I live in DuPage county, and I can barely find a GOPer who's prepared to vote the Neo-Dem into office. How the hell does she get 80% when I can't find 5%?
Crash and burn. Kill the last cockroach of the old guard. She will lose, and I will help it happen. No more Republicans in our state who could switch parties and get 90% of the Democrat vote. Enough is enough already.
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