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To: Porterville

But if you didn't have this, you could a permanent underclass of non-citizen illegals. With the current system, at least the second or third generation are citizens.


2 posted on 04/06/2006 7:59:34 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam

Actually, if you didn't have this you would not have had nearly so many jump the border to have their babies. I remember back in the 80s, living in W. TX. I had a friend who was a labor and delivery nurse at our local hospital (which had a super L & D dept). She told me back THEN that I would be surprised how many Mexican woman showed up at the hospital straight from Mexico to have their American babies. She indicated that most of them then returned home. But, they had their American baby so they could come back later. This was my very first exposure to the problem.
susie


4 posted on 04/06/2006 8:02:10 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Your alleged underclass of non-citizen illegals would be substantially less than the (estimated) 11 million illegals if the immigration laws were properly and totally enforced.

Yes there would be a permanent underclass. But it can be limited because the law was properly enforced until the early 1980's and the illegal population did not swell until after some government officials started selecting which laws they wanted to enforce.

We do not need fradulent citizens. Citizenship is not a birthright. Citizenship is not a guaranteed right according to the checks and balances that constitute the law. Enforce the law and these questions are moot.


9 posted on 04/06/2006 8:15:25 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (ELECT SOME WORKERS AND REMOVE THE JERKERS!!)
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To: Unam Sanctam

In any case, you can get legal citizens IF they naturalize.

The most important part of a guest worker program is the application must be done in person, and must be done at a US embassy or consulate located outside the United States.


That gives the illegals incentive to GO HOME.


28 posted on 04/06/2006 8:44:35 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (You don't drive a car looking through the rear view mirror, but you do practice politics that way.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Spoken like a true, blue socialist of the Peoples Republic of Mass.


80 posted on 04/07/2006 9:10:22 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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