Posted on 04/07/2006 4:16:49 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
Even as the evolution wars rage, on school boards and in courtrooms, biologists continue to accumulate empirical data supporting Darwinian theory. Two extraordinary discoveries announced this week should go a long way to providing even more of the evidence that critics of evolution say is lacking.
One study produced what biblical literalists have been demanding ever since Darwin -- the iconic "missing links." If species evolve, they ask, with one segueing into another, where are the transition fossils, those man-ape or reptile-mammal creatures that evolution posits?
In yesterday's issue of Nature, paleontologists unveiled an answer: well-preserved fossils of a previously unknown fish that was on its way to evolving into a four-limbed land-dweller. It had a jaw, fins and scales like a fish, but a skull, neck, ribs and pectoral fin like the earliest limbed animals, called tetrapods.
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Another discovery addresses something Darwin himself recognized could doom his theory: the existence of a complex organ that couldn't have "formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications," he wrote in 1859.
The intelligent-design movement, which challenges teaching evolution, makes this the centerpiece of its attack. It insists that components of complex structures, such as the eye, are useless on their own and so couldn't have evolved independently, an idea called irreducible complexity.
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Newly found species fills evolutionary gap between fish and land animals. Another transitional fossil.
Evolution of 'irreducible complexity' explained. IC structures are entirely consistent with Darwinian evolution.
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Yep thats the missing link alright..for my mother in law. LOL..what BS is pushed on the gullible..Not one but millions of missing links would be needed to complete the record--Evolution theory works for same species variations It cannot claim anything else and lacks the power required to prove todays grandiose claims..Darwin's 18th century guesses have been fossilized into the near law status given by todays so called scientists - they will be known as a laughing stock as modern methods of gene research prove how ignorant they are on how the multitude of species came into being
So far modern methods of gene research have consistently and uniformly verified evolution, to the extent that such methods have been utilized in that regard. If in some fantasy future that changes, then I guess we'll have something to discuss.
or not.
All that fossil really proves is that the geography where it was found had warm weather at some point in time eons ago. The fairy tale is the claim of it being transitional bones of a creature deciding to come out of the water. A case could be made that the creature was not coming out of the water but moving from land to water.
Scienists are always testing, testing and retesting to prove or disprove portions of the different parts of scientific theories involved in evolution. Their tests are also properly peer reviewed.
So far scientists can't seem to disprove the various scientific theories and the factual evidence that is studied clearly confirms the scientific theories.
Obviously you didn't take science in school; didn't understand how it works when you took science; or; you decided sometime in your life to make your beliefs as conclusions before testing any fact rather than testing a fact and reaching a conclusion based on observations of the test as practiced in science.
(So far modern methods of gene research have consistently and uniformly verified evolution, to the extent that such methods have been utilized in that regard. If in some fantasy future that changes, then I guess we'll have something to discuss.)
The fable of evolution is the religion of the athiest materialist who desires to throw off all moral laws and indulge in the sexual desires of their arrogant heart.
Evolutionists will be suprised when they come before the creator God, Jesus Christ.
( 19Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.
20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
21Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.)
you may be relying on OLD data..suggest you look at prior threads on FR about genetics and evolution..you might get a surprise.
Or as always are they guessing what it looked like from bits and pieces??P> "As always"? Is there any particular reason you're posting a grossly false slander? Please explain your behavior.
Once again making too much from so Little.
You really haven't a clue, have you? You've been reading too many creationist pamphlets and not enough science journals.
NOT some big break in missing links just a big break in credulity by the evolutionist Propagandists.
...and now you're just posting your wild presumptions as if they were facts. Is this out of dishonesty, or true ignorance?
This is, indeed,a "big break in missing links", and yet you confidently hand-wave it away as "just a big break in credulity". Why do you behave in such an irresponsible manner?
Well said.
Yes, it is.
for my mother in law. LOL..
Ah, childish snickering as a substitute for reasoned discussion of the evidence. How typical.
what BS is pushed on the gullible..
Whenever I'm curious about that sort of thing, I just look at the creationist websites for numerous examples. Your own posts are further stellar examples of the same.
Not one but millions of missing links would be needed to complete the record
Ah, yes, the old "if it's not 100% complete, I'm going to ignore the vast amounts of evidence we *do* have on hand, so as to remain blissfully ignorant" excuse. I get that a lot from anti-evolutionists.
Evolution theory works for same species variations It cannot claim anything else and lacks the power required to prove todays grandiose claims..
You're joking, right? Is this yet another thing you've "learned" from your favorite creationist tracts?
Darwin's 18th century guesses have been fossilized into the near law status given by todays so called scientists
...because they've been validated literally millions of times over by vast mountains of evidence and research findings along multiple independent cross-confirming lines.
You sort of "forgot" to mention that part.
- they will be known as a laughing stock as modern methods of gene research prove how ignorant they are on how the multitude of species came into being
Exsqueeze me, kid, but unlike you, I've actually been reading the results of the "modern methods of gene research", and the only thing they "prove how ignorant they are" is the pronouncements of uneducated anti-evolutionists such as yourself. The actual gene research over the past 10-15 years, since large-scale DNA analysis has become feasible, have so overwhelmingly confirmed and illuminated evolutionary biology that for all practical purposes, the debate is *over* -- you anti-evolutionists have lost in a landslide of DNA evidence validating evolutionary biology, but the real joke is that you guys are too willfully ignorant of the findings to realize it.
That's why it's the anti-creationists who are the laughingstocks and the butt of so many jokes, and for good reason.
See post #14. It's not "well said", its errant nonsense on the level of a slow fourth-grader. Almost everything he said is a gross misrepresentation, and his only form of "argument" is to tell falsehoods and fling unjustified ridicule. It's pathetic.
you may be relying on OLD data..suggest you look at prior threads on FR about genetics and evolution..you might get a surprise.
Do you just make up this horse manure as you go along, or are you just mindlessly parroting some creationist know-nothing? Either way, you're making a fool of yourself. AntiGuv's description of the state of modern gene research is entirely correct, and your gibbering attempt to naysay it is entirely off base.
Oh look, yet another person who doesn't have a clue about the subject he's attempting to spout off about.
Sorry, kid, but evolutionary biology is neither a "fable", nor a "religion", nor the work of "athiest [sic] materialist" -- I'm sorry if this makes your head explode, but the *majority* of American evolutionists are *Christians*, and that sort of blows your idiotic presumption entirely out of the water.
But thanks for revealing that *you're* the one with a bizarre fixation on "sexual desires". The rest of us were discussing fossils, but for some reason that made you blurt out your comments about sex.
Evolutionists will be suprised when they come before the creator God, Jesus Christ.
We won't be surprised at all. You, on the other hand, will be surprised when he's ticked off about you telling falsehoods about His methods.
( 19Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life. 20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 21Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.)
Ah, yes, talk about fossils, and out come the random and irrelevant Bible quotes from folks who can't keep their minds focused on the discussion at hand.
Darwin was 19th century, BTW.
I don't find anyone referring to the scientists of several hundred years ago as laughing stocks. They did what they could with their tools and accumulated knowledge. Same as today.
No, actually, it confirms a great deal more than that, even if you're unable to grasp it.
The fairy tale is the claim of it being transitional bones of a creature deciding to come out of the water.
Actually, that conclusion is based on a vast amount of evidence. The only "fairy tale" here is your description of the research methods. Hallucinate much?
A case could be made that the creature was not coming out of the water but moving from land to water.
A stupid case that is invalidated by a great deal of the evidence, yes, but a case nonetheless. But then the anti-evolutinists seem awfully fond of making that kind of case.
There I fixed that post for you :)
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