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Subway: The New King of Junk Food
http://www.organicconsumers.org/corp/subway071504.cfm; MSNBC advertisements ^ | 7/15/04 | Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman

Posted on 04/08/2006 7:29:41 AM PDT by Cvengr

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To: Cvengr
Over the past 6 years, I have gradually lost 60 lbs. I now have a BMI of 21. I have done this through healthy exercise and watching every calorie.

I appreciate Subway. I know exactly how many calories I am eatting without having to worry about hidden fat and its extra calories.

There sandwiches are always fresh and what I choose is heart healthy.

They are NOT the "subs", "grinders", or "hoagies" that I know from my Philadelphia youth. Subway serves sandwiches (in my opinion) and they should NOT be confused with the real thing.

By the way,,,,there is nothing like a good Philly cheese steak or tuna hoagie.
61 posted on 04/08/2006 9:02:36 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Apparantly Bayer does make a product to address hemophilia. I'm now uncertain if perhaps the 1st 2 scenes weren't as my memory recalls or if I'm simply mistaken. If I see the ad again, or if you happen to catch it, the first scene and message is the one I thought referenced 'homophobia'. The 3rd and fourth scenes seemed to jump to the medical treatment. If it referenced homophobia, there's plausible deniability. If 1st scene is hemophilia, then it's my mistake.


62 posted on 04/08/2006 9:03:24 AM PDT by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr
You are welcome.

Bayer is pushing their research right now because of the rise in opposition to animal testing. They are showing the good things that come from medical and other types of research.

63 posted on 04/08/2006 9:05:03 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Sign up to donate monthly and you will be automatically entered in our "Win a Bear Hug Contest")
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To: durasell

It's just fresh vegetables, every fastfood joint has to transport and store some fresh vegetables, if nothing else they need tomatos for the deluxe sandwiches. Most of the non-burger fastfood joints (like Subway) get a delivery of stuff every day (burger joints usually get by on two deliveries a week, one that has everything and one that's just refrigerated goods). The reason the all healthy food fastfood joint will never be invented is there's no market for it, there's just not that many people hooked on healthy food and the ones that are look down their nose at fastfood and wouldn't go there anyway.


64 posted on 04/08/2006 9:05:31 AM PDT by discostu (raise your glass of beer on high, and seal your fate forever)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

The subs you get from the Publix supermarket deli beat Subway's like a rented mule.


65 posted on 04/08/2006 9:08:02 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: discostu

Thse deliveries add up. The difference between making one giant delivery a month (frozen burgers, buns, etc) and two giant deliveries a week (fresh veggies, fruits, etc) is huge. Also, fruits and veggies go bad. There's a lot of spoilage.

I recently ate at a fast food health food store (independent). I had a salad, "health shake" and something that looked like ice cream. The total was close to $20. That's more than double the average fast food franchise purchase.


66 posted on 04/08/2006 9:10:55 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: SamAdams76; Trust but Verify; Alberta's Child; BobS; Vision; martin_fierro; Lizavetta; Tribune7; ...

Spot on, SA. The best sub shops are the local M&P places. They don't skimp on the meat and trimmings. The place just north of me piles it up 2", easy. 37 types of subs to choose from. Screw Subway and I'm not even thinking about going to Quiznos, based upon what other posters on this thread have said about it.

Off topic. I just got back from my local fire dept, who are having a BBQ. Pit beef, BBQ ham, BBQ turkey, piled-up 4" on fresh kaiser rolls. The place was packed and lines were forming out into the parking lot. Those guys know what BBQ is all about. I need a cold Rolling Rock to finish this one off.

Life is good.


67 posted on 04/08/2006 9:11:00 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: Cvengr

I'll be watching for it. It would seem odd to have either word there unless it is as 'Harmless Teddy Bear' says in #38 and Bayer has a hemophilia treatment (Kogenate FS) that they are promoting.


68 posted on 04/08/2006 9:11:36 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Pain is nothing. Pain is weakness leaving the body.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I doubt that Bayer would recommend their product to a hemophiliac.

Bayer makes much more then aspirin.

Not sure if you can see this poster very clearly but here is one of their "Mastering Hemophilia Winning Freedom" posters.

69 posted on 04/08/2006 9:11:48 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Sign up to donate monthly and you will be automatically entered in our "Win a Bear Hug Contest")
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To: Bob Mc
Well, you can't blame Subway. They're just protecting their own interstests by paying off the shysters to keep them off their back.

I think you are right. This is just a marketing ploy with the added benefit of being a pre-emptive strike against obesity lawsuits.

Caveat emptor, anyway.

70 posted on 04/08/2006 9:11:53 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Cvengr

I still love a good Schlotzky's original sandwich. Wish they had one closer to were I live!


71 posted on 04/08/2006 9:14:53 AM PDT by knak (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing)
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To: spectre

The one in Wake Forest NC has Blimpie which I think is much better than Subway.


72 posted on 04/08/2006 9:15:12 AM PDT by kalee
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To: durasell

The deliveries happen already. Nobody does one giant delivery a month. McDonalds does one a week that's all things (frozen, dry, refrigerated) except buns and another a week that's just refrigerated, they have buns delivered 5 days a week, buns are only good for 3 days and take up a HUGE quantity of space thus why they get them delivered constantly. Place like Subway and Quiznos have stuff delivered either 5 days a week or every single day depending. I've worked in both types of fastfood, both burger joints and sub shops, I know how the stocking process works and the stocking process would work just as well for an all health food store, all fast food places have to deal with veggies so all their stocking processes can keep the veggies coming in frequently enough to control spoilage.

That health food store you went to ripped you off. You could get a salad at McD and the milk shakes aren't milk shakes anymore and the ice cream is actually frozen yogurt. You could have eaten just as healthy for a lot less.


73 posted on 04/08/2006 9:18:23 AM PDT by discostu (raise your glass of beer on high, and seal your fate forever)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

"No wonder that fat slob lost all that weight eating there."

That is a good thing. That is their point about Jared*.





*That fat slob is a human being named Jared.


74 posted on 04/08/2006 9:19:26 AM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: Pablo64
Ya ever heard of coupons?

Buy one get one free, and half off are in almost every newspaper, every week.

75 posted on 04/08/2006 9:19:27 AM PDT by kylaka
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To: CFC__VRWC
OMG you are so right! Publix absolutely has the best subs. I have them pile on all the vegetables so high. It is actually a big salad on a piece of bread.
76 posted on 04/08/2006 9:21:20 AM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: discostu

Thanks for that info. Very informative. Are deliveries calculated at the POS and transmitted directly to a distribution center in most fast food operations?

The health food place wasn't bad -- remember, this is Manhattan, so it's going to be more expensive. That said, I prefer diners to health food or fast food.

The idea that I had was a self-service juicer. The health food store employees always look like they're having a good time using the juicer. If someone were to put a juicer out with a selection of fruits, veggies etc I bet people would use it.


77 posted on 04/08/2006 9:23:11 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Now I'm hungry.

.....here........


78 posted on 04/08/2006 9:23:11 AM PDT by Liz (Liberty consists in having the power to do that which is permitted by the law. Cicero)
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To: discostu

Ah hah! You're just a shill for the hemopheliac agenda! :)

Although the idea of Bayer being a cure for homophobia is pretty damn amusing.


79 posted on 04/08/2006 9:26:13 AM PDT by mjwise
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To: Cvengr
There is a difference between McDonald's and Subway.

To call Subway "junk food" is a stretch.

The meat at subway may not be premium cut, but it is meat. What you put on the meat and bread is entirely up to the customer.

Mickie D's pretty much is processed crap.

80 posted on 04/08/2006 9:26:46 AM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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