Posted on 04/11/2006 10:34:58 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
Relax - it's a college course taught by a biology professor. It isn't like it's a high school course taught by a Sunday School teacher. Your Darwin is safe in the hallowed halls of academia.
There's a thread here that discusses some of that(with the professor taking part in the discussion):
http://telicthoughts.com/?p=634
The sky is falling. What hyperbole.
That's a fair argument.
They are giving science credit for the class. If you want to see the professors views on the class, see his blog:
http://evolutionlist.blogspot.com/2006/04/evolution-and-design-is-there-purpose.html
The professor is also answering questions and having a discussion with the folks at TelicThoughts about the subject:
http://telicthoughts.com/?p=634
I'm sure they have philosophy courses. Even if you define science to exclude speculation like ID, it should still constitute philosophy and an interesting intellectual challenge that should be debated, not silenced.
####The sky is falling. What hyperbole.####
Exactly! Leftists demand the censorship of scientific data all the time. Feminists do it. Egalitarians do it. Homosexual activists do it. Others put forth wild theories that are given consideration in scientific forums nationwide. Environmentalists, for example, do that. The response of the scientific community (with a few notable exceptions) is to capitulate to the censorship, or just avoid the controversy and work quietly on their own projects.
But if people who question the theory of evolution merely request an opportunity to present their case, the same "scientifically minded" people who wilt like a petunia when confronted by a howling feminist suddenly begin beating their chests like Taezan and vowing to fight this "attack on science" with every ounce of strength they have.
Shows the power of Political Correctness.
Also I forgot to mention that their science faculty includes both at least one ID'er and at least one YEC:
http://www.nysaes.cornell.edu/hort/faculty/sanford/
http://www.mae.cornell.edu/Psiaki/default.html
Taezan = Tarzan! :-)
The twin threats to science of cutting research because the administration doesn't like the answers and forcing classes to teach unfounded science is a threat to America and its place in the world.
"The sky is falling. What hyperbole."
The levers that America to produce beyond its natural resources are almost all based one way or another on science.
so yes, the economic sky is falling and people who want to force the teaching of science without scientific basis are a very large part of thaty problem.
thats unfortunate, thanks for the info.
"Also I forgot to mention that their science faculty includes both at least one ID'er and at least one YEC: "
I don't see the inclusion of people who believe in ID as a problem. I'm a Christian and I believe in intelligent design but until there is scientific evidence of it, it doesn't belong in science class.
Really? Do you have any proof?
You're right about how bad textbooks are. As I understand it, some biology textbooks STILL present fake "evidence" for Darwinism, e.g. Ernst Haeckel's fake embryos, and the fraudulent peppered moth photos!
But I have to disagree with you about the need to wait until the college level before students can have an intelligent discussion about intelligent design.
Smart high school students deserve more than a Darwinian indoctrination; and regardless of how ill-trained their teachers may be, I believe there are resources out there that could be used as a basis for discussion of the subject.
One is a short, easy-to-read book by James Perloff called The Case Against Darwin: Why the Evidence Should Be Examined.
The book is a good overview of the subject; it also exposes some Darwinian claims, e.g. Haeckel's embryos, as a fraud.
"short, easy-to-read book"
"exposes some Darwinian claims"
His work is like the guy who exposes a faith healer as a fraud and says religion should no longer be taught.
so yes, the economic sky is falling and people who want to force the teaching of science without scientific basis are a very large part of thaty problem.
You are as hysterical as Al Gore and just as irrational.
For centuries we have lead the way in science and technology despite having the most believers and your dreaded ignoramuses of the Bible Belt etc...
We did fine -- in fact excelled.
Logic and reason -- try it. You'll find it works better than emotion in analyzing things.
#####all are based on science and all are threatened by the current anti-science movement.#####
The LEFT-WING war on science! There is no conservative war on science. The assertion that there is one is a fraud, a myth, and figment of the liberal media's imagination. It's as phony and non-existent as the alleged conservative "war against women", "war against an independent judiciary", "war against the poor", etc.
The supposed conservative war on science consists of nothing more than a VERY MILD request that alternatives to evolutionary theory be given a hearing, and conservative opposition to human embryo farming. Hardly a war against science, especially considering the real war against it being waged by the left.
If you are going to make this kind of charge I'm going to ask you to back it up. Name the textbooks.
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