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South Carolina: House subcommittee passes cigarette tax hike
WSItv.com ^ | April 6, 2006 | Maggie Alexander

Posted on 04/11/2006 1:24:59 PM PDT by SheLion

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To: NaughtiusMaximus
I did the same thing, less the bootleg selling. I bought a high quality rolling machine and all the fixins.

First, and you won't believe this, it has helped me cut back on cigarettes. I roll a high quality tobacco in one pack of my home made cigs, then a pack of light tobacco roll, then a pack of exotic tobacco, then a pack of my own special blend. Four packs generally takes me about 45 minutes to roll and I listen to radio in the garage while I'm working. These 4 packs will last me the week, easily. I used to smoke about a pack and a half a day, you do the math.

I would advise newcomers to the rolling game to follow the instructions in the kits and gradually you get the feel for the "perfect pack". It doesn't take much time. I prefer a tighter pack in my smokes, especially the exotic blend, and it is very satisfying.

Are they good? Well, a friend of mine at our lake cabin property and I were taking about my new hobby and he bummed a smoke, one of my full flavor blends, and he fell in love with it. We went back to his computer in the back of his little tavern on the lake and I got him to the website. So, he's hooked. I plan on seeing he and his wife next weekend (by that time he'll have his stuff) and we'll see how much he likes it.

Another plus: you run out of smokes while watching TV in the early AM. You don't jump in the truck and drive forever to buy a pack of smokes, you go to the garage and roll 5 or 6, or what ever it takes, sit back down and enjoy.

A high quality machine is expensive about 70/80 bucks the tobacco, depending on what you want and how much you want is very reasonable (I was surprised) and the tubes are very cheap, and very good quality. Now, think about 5, 6, 7, or 8 bucks a pack. At 8 bucks a pack you got the price of the machine back in 10 packs. Hey New Yorkers, you should be rolling your own ASAP.

Minnesota is about 4 buck a pack, I won't pay that! I get higher quality smokes for a small fraction of that, and I'm not feeding the anti smoking lobby.

I was sceptical until about 2 months ago, but I'm a believer now. The fact that I haven't purchased a pack of cigarettes in 2 months has made a difference as well. I enjoy a cigarette and the quality of commercial brands has gone to the dogs. My smokes are wonderful and exactly the flavor that I want. I can control that, and that's what a good cigarette is all about. Before long this will catch on and the quality of cigarettes will go up, just like micro-breweries increased the quality of beer. This is a strange time for all of these vices but once the government says you can't do something, or it pushes you to stop doing something legal Americans say, "Ok I'll do it myself and I won't tell you what I'm doing because, and remember this...IT'S NONE OF YOUR DAMNED BUSINESS"!

21 posted on 04/11/2006 3:13:35 PM PDT by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: MBB1984
I do think Government has a responsibility to protect its youth from a product that undeniably causes cancer and other health risks and provides no benefit to the user.

We're talking about cigarettes here. You just described Government itself. Government has obligations, not rights or responsibilities.

Would you like the state to legalize drugs?

Yes, but that's not the topic of this thread. This is a thread about raising taxes for spurious reasons, none of which were described in the article.

22 posted on 04/11/2006 3:20:06 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: MBB1984
Almost missed this.

Government has a responsibility to protect its youth.

This is the United States of America. Until recently, we didn't think of our children belonging to the government.

Reminds me of a certain European regime that was crushed for its dangerous actions and ideology in the mid-1940's.

23 posted on 04/11/2006 3:25:44 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: MBB1984
I am from South Carolina and I think it is a great bill. I am for any bill that makes it harder for children to smoke cigarettes.

The myriad of laws we have enacted to "reduce teen smoking" over the years has had little effect on teen smoking, but a huge effect on the cost of doing business for a legal product.

If we were serious about or "children's" health we would not use these ineffective methods, but would instead ban the product altogether. Instead we want to appear to be doing something about the problem while doing nothing that makes a difference.

I am from South Carolina also, but I do not support targeting a legal product with burdensome regulations and taxes. But I would support outlawing tobacco sales altogether even though I am a smoker.

I find it humorous that the same people that used to complain about "sin" taxes and how ineffectual they were, have now embraced "health" taxes, while expecting different results.

24 posted on 04/11/2006 3:37:20 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: MBB1984; Between the Lines
I am from South Carolina and I think it is a great bill. I am for any bill that makes it harder for children to smoke cigarettes.

Ok. So you are telling us that the kids in SC have no parental supervision?  That the state needs to raise each child?  How about teaching the kids at home about tobacco prevention? 

And kids today who pay $80 dollars and up for designer jeans won't think twice about the tax increase on cigarettes IF they want to get them bad enough.

It's illegal for any child under 18 to buy cigarettes.  So, how do you suppose that an increase in the taxes is going to stop them from smoking?  Can you answer me that?

25 posted on 04/11/2006 4:01:40 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: elkfersupper; MBB1984
Only parents can make it harder for children to smoke cigarettes. Would you like the state to take over parenting also?

So true.  Read my post #25.

26 posted on 04/11/2006 4:02:59 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Fooor the Chiiiiiildren!

hehe!


27 posted on 04/11/2006 4:05:06 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Between the Lines
Apr. 04, 2006

Goodness.  That slipped right by me.  Thanks so much!!!

28 posted on 04/11/2006 4:08:30 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
I plan to recoup my investment by selling product to friends and coworkers at about $10.00 per pack.

YIKES!!
I wouldn't even start this until checking all of your state and federal laws regarding tobacco sales. Better yet, ask a cigarette shop's owner.

I'm trying to grow my own tobacco, but I know I'll never be able to sell it; it'll be for my own personal use. I'd need a license to sell.
29 posted on 04/11/2006 4:10:54 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: timydnuc
Thank you for your post. I am now retired and on a fixed income. This will really help.

What machine do you recommend. What tobacco?

30 posted on 04/11/2006 4:16:21 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: timydnuc
Four packs generally takes me about 45 minutes to roll

??!! I can do a carton in an hour.

Neener-neener-NEEEEner!
;-)
31 posted on 04/11/2006 4:16:27 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: AGreatPer
Thank you for your post. I am now retired and on a fixed income. This will really help.

What machine do you recommend. What tobacco?


I know you didn't ask me, but I currently use a Top-O-Matic and smoke Farmer's Gold full flavor with the Premier 100s tubes. I get the tobacco and tubes from rollyourown.com and the machine from a local Smoker Friendly for about $30.00. The Top-O is a Chinese clone of the Supermatic that Rollyourown sells, and has been going strong for months. I started with a Supermatic and it lasted almost a year before finally breaking (rolling for two people).

Good luck.
32 posted on 04/11/2006 4:31:47 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: RandallFlagg
??!! I can do a carton in an hour.

I can roll 20 in three minutes.  hehe!


33 posted on 04/11/2006 4:33:32 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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"A cigarette tax increase will first and foremost prevent thousands of young people from smoking, and current smokers to kick the habit."


Ja, mein Fuhrer!
34 posted on 04/11/2006 6:25:17 PM PDT by 383rr (Those who chose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: RandallFlagg
"Top-O-Matic and smoke Farmer's Gold full flavor with the Premier 100s tubes. "

Thanks. Sounds like a good place to start.

35 posted on 04/11/2006 7:30:07 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: AGreatPer

tobaccostation.com is another website you may want to look at.


36 posted on 04/11/2006 11:17:02 PM PDT by jeff5508
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