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Looking for alien lasers, not radios
New Scientist Space ^ | 04/15/06

Posted on 04/11/2006 7:31:19 PM PDT by KevinDavis

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To: KevinDavis
says Paul Horowitz, an astronomer at Harvard University

If I'm not mistaken, that is the same Paul Horowitz who is the co-author of The Art of Electronics, which is one of the best textbooks ever written for learning electronics theory as well as hands-on electronics. Add the ARRL Radio Amateur's Handbook and you have an unbeatable one-two punch in the electronics books department.

Whether either book will lead to successful communication with aliens is less certain, though...

21 posted on 04/11/2006 8:38:38 PM PDT by Zeppo
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To: 6SJ7
True, but I think the theory is, that at some point, an alien intelligence decided to broadcast radio (or other EM) signals out into space, either on purpose, or not. They may have used it for years, or even centuries, before something else (might have) come along. If some of the calculations as to the amount of life in the Universe are close, then we would recieve signals, even if the race that created them has moved on, or is long gone.

Suffice it to say, that no one knows. It is impossible to know if this is a good idea or a bad idea, but who can fault anyone for trying? If it doesn't work, then oh well, we are still alone. But, if it does work, then that opens up whole new doors.
22 posted on 04/11/2006 8:42:37 PM PDT by Laz711 (The Barbarians are in Rome.........CLOSE THE BORDERS!!!)
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To: Wiz
I would imagine aliens would seek communication methods that would travel faster than light, but what would it be...

Quantum Entanglement is what you are looking for.

23 posted on 04/11/2006 8:47:05 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: KevinDavis
"Klaatu barada nikto"


24 posted on 04/11/2006 8:56:00 PM PDT by George - the Other
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To: RightWhale

ETs have probably been monitoring our radio emissions for decades. The 1950's and 1960's were hotbeds of UFO activity. Then the 70's hit and the sightings dropped dramatically. They probably got an earful of Disco music and decided we needed another 100 years or so before we were ready for contact. If Elvis and the Beatles ever come back in a big way, maybe they'll return.


25 posted on 04/11/2006 8:59:51 PM PDT by gregwest
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To: Riley
That's one of my big gripes about the scientific community.What is unassailable now that schoolchildren will snicker at in another hundred years?

Do you know of any shortcuts?

26 posted on 04/11/2006 9:00:11 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: Chode
Tricky. Hey, am I the only man on this planet that thinks that light moving as a body through space is nonsense? I think the idea of "light years", as most understand it, is absurd.
27 posted on 04/11/2006 9:10:48 PM PDT by Jaysun (If anything is possible, then it's possible that nothing is possible.)
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To: Wiz
I would imagine aliens would seek communication methods that would travel faster than light, but what would it be...

And of course that would be subspace communication. ;^)

28 posted on 04/11/2006 9:40:09 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: Kirkwood

Two questions:

Are WE sending out such signals?

Do we really want to?

Searching for evidence of life outside the solar system is something I am all in favor of.

Revealing our home address to ETs seems a lot like playing fast and loose with credit card information on the Internet.


29 posted on 04/11/2006 10:35:00 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: cripplecreek; KevinDavis
Any space faring race will need a means of communication that's faster than light.

Apple sells tachyon modems.

Um, anyway. This seems to assume that aliens might not only aim a laser at us, but at a 1.8 meter telescope of indescript positioning on earth.

Personally, I am betting on the Allen Array to find something. In my professional opinion, I mean...

31 posted on 04/11/2006 11:09:50 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Laz711
True, but I think the theory is, that at some point, an alien intelligence decided to broadcast radio (or other EM) signals out into space, either on purpose, or not. They may have used it for years, or even centuries, before something else (might have) come along.

We might pickup the alien version of "I Love Lucy". That would be cool!

32 posted on 04/12/2006 4:13:01 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: kb7urx

Exactly!! We don't know. We can't know. But, if we don't try to find out, we never will know.


33 posted on 04/12/2006 5:18:21 AM PDT by Laz711 (The Barbarians are in Rome.........CLOSE THE BORDERS!!!)
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To: Riley; Chode
And lightyears are distance, not time...

Nice try, Chode! '-)

34 posted on 04/12/2006 6:25:21 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Shaitan's most successful disguise)
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To: Coyoteman
Do you know of any shortcuts?

Shortcuts? To what? My criticism isn't directed at the scientific method, which is the best that we can do.

It is directed at the notion that we have arrived at the pinnacle of knowlege, and everything that we think is impossible, really is- and always will be. Science has scoffed at all sorts of things in the past which are commonplace today.
To paraphrase another poster- the scientific orthodoxy has no sense of history.

35 posted on 04/12/2006 6:41:00 AM PDT by Riley ("What color is the boathouse at Hereford?")
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To: Chode

The speed of light is the speed of light. Laser light propogates at the same speed as microwave radiation.


36 posted on 04/12/2006 9:41:31 AM PDT by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: gregwest
If Elvis and the Beatles ever come back in a big way, maybe they'll return.

But I thought that THEY took Elvis with them?!

37 posted on 04/12/2006 9:45:20 AM PDT by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: gregwest

No need to speculate. UFO sightings are reported every day in the US.


38 posted on 04/12/2006 9:48:09 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: KevinDavis

Exactly what I was going to say.


39 posted on 04/12/2006 9:48:42 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: Chode

It won't pass it.


40 posted on 04/12/2006 9:50:04 AM PDT by dljordan
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