[Shooter 2.5]

Kimber frames were made by Smith and Wesson. I guess you might as well give that pistol away.

Smith is under new management. The morons who would boycott an American company for past agreements don't seem to have a problem buying ChiCom AK's. Go figure.

[redgolum]

Nah, I like the Kimber. When did Kimber start making their own frames?

As to S&W, a good portion of the "bad" management was replaced. I personally don't like their guns for unrelated reasons (although the new M&P pistol looks interesting). S&W has a long way to go to rebuild their reputation, and I imagine that a number of loyal customers have left for good.

Ruger's haven't really appealed to me either (beyond my old 10/22!). Beautiful guns, but I have had bad luck getting them to shoot well.

[Criminal Number 18F]

The morons who would boycott an American company for past agreements

Show us morons where Smith's new management from the toilet industry has repudiated the old agreement. They're just not talking about it and pretending it doesn't exist.

In any event, the products are unreliable (M39, 59 and subsequent) or derivative (Swocks). Smith made good revolvers through the first two-thirds of the 20th Century. Compare a 1955 Smith to a 1995 one (if you can find a 1995 one) and it's night and day.

Kind of like comparing a Swock to the Glock it's reverse-engineered from. Nobody buys those but big-city PDs, and they do it because their chiefs are usually empty uniforms who illustrate how affirmative action can take a person far beyond his or her Peter Principle level.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F