[spectre]

The word "amnesty" is being spun as much as the word "illegal".

LaRaza argues "how can it be amnesty if they are required to pay a fine?", etc.

IOW's "amnesty, by it's true definition," would mean that ALL is forgiven, unconditionally. (spin, spin, spin).

[P-40]

The word "amnesty" is being spun as much as the word "illegal".

That is because it would be amnesty for illegals. I would not waste any time reading la raza.

The Hispanic population here is not thrilled with all the illegal immigration. Are they "racists?"

[r9etb]

The word "amnesty" is being spun as much as the word "illegal".

True enough. But I think both words are being used as a means of avoiding any real analysis of the problems posed by the border crossers.

There are real problems -- illegals can impose welfare costs, for example.

And there are non-problems, too: It Mexicans are willing to work crops for a lot less than Americans will (if they will at all) -- and who cares?

The terms of the debate are hiding the real issues here. The problem can't be solved until those issues are brought into the light, and honestly discussed.