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And it also seems to me that no other effort will bear fruit until that issue is resolved.

Unless all of the critical angles are addressed at once, there will be no solution. Fortunately, the Senators from my state were really starting to grasp that we preferred no bill to a bad bill.

A little insight on how things *used* to be. At one time, predominately single males came across the border to work a bit and then go home. We got the cheap labor and they got the advantage of the currency differential that made them a bit more middle class in their home country with the power that came with it. Bringing the family here was discouraged, actively so. Then the Supreme Court said we needed to educate their kids at the State's expense. They said they had every right to welfare. We were supposed to treat them like any other citizen. The trickle across the border became a flood.

Until we reverse this mess, nothing will change. We don't need to build a wall along the entire border, we just need to remove the incentives to come here..like Prop 187 tried to do. People will scream "racist!" at anyone who attempts to do this. These are the people that are not only supporting a massive corporate welfare system but also a system of brutal repression in Mexico towards anyone whose skin is a bit too brown.

That is it in a nutshell.

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Until we reverse this mess, nothing will change. We don't need to build a wall along the entire border, we just need to remove the incentives to come here..like Prop 187 tried to do.

I agree with that. But the question is, since you say it's already too late to fix, how do you go about fixing it?

Are you suggesting that it's too late to fix at the state level, but can be addressed at the federal level? Or is it too late to fix it even at the federal level?

If the former, how would you suggest it get fixed (and what would you suggest the fixes be)?

And if the latter -- if it's too late even for the feds to fix it -- what then?