Muslims here who say democracy is a no, no (... Australia's Muslims )

Herald Sun ^ | 14 Apr 06 | Andrew Bolt

[IrishMike]

ANOTHER speech by another Muslim leader, and I ask -- who's kidding who?

In February Treasurer Peter Costello was monstered for saying Muslims shouldn't come to Australia unless they accepted basic Australian values. And he listed them: democracy, the freedoms of a secular state, and "loyalty first -- loyalty to Australia".

For this he was called a Muslim-basher by most of our leading Muslim groups.

The Australian Federation of Islamic Councils declared "Islam law teaches that when you go into a country you embrace the laws of that country".

The Islamic Council of Victoria said: "Muslims are Australians first."

The Lebanese Muslim Association claimed the "majority of Muslims . . . accept Australian values".

And maybe they do, indeed. It's a good sign, in one way, that so many felt hurt by Costello's remarks. But I wonder if they should take far more offence at the many other Muslim spokesmen who seem determined to make them seem dishonest, or at least deaf to what a significant minority of other Muslims here say.

Last Saturday a small Muslim group, Hizb ut-Tahrir, held a public meeting at the Bankstown Town Hall to discuss whether Australia's Muslims really should subscribe to those values Costello mentioned.

The answer was: No. No to democracy, a secular society and Australia first.

[AntiGovernment]

The Lebanese Muslim Association claimed the "majority of Muslims . . . accept Australian values".

And they do, unless those values conflict with Islamic values. For example, a Lebanese gang raped Australian girls because Australian girls are 'whores' who deserve what they get.

[x_plus_one]

Two words: Concealed Carry.

[muslims=borg]

You know how you can tell a Muslim is lying ? Their lips are moving.

[Dark Skies]

This demands repeating!!!

American Sheik Khalid Yasin, then based in Sydney: "There's no such thing as a Muslim having a non-Muslim friend."

Khaled Cheikho, now on terrorism charges in Sydney: "Sharia law is gonna prevail through this land, it's gonna be ruled by it, you tell Howard this."

Sheik Faiz Mohamad, of Sydney's Global Islamic Youth Centre: "A victim of rape every minute somewhere in the world. Why? No one to blame but herself."

[Edgerunner]

If Allah blesses those who kill innocence, those who rape and terrorize the world, then Allah is Satan, for we shall know him by his works! No amount of propaganda can cover the works of Islam. It is the only "religion" on earth that forces compliance with "Islamic Law" and forces people to become Muslim at the point of a gun. No other religion outlaw conversion from it to another on threat of death! Know Satan by his works! Allah is damned, and anyone who WILLINGLY follows Allah will follow Allah back into hell (the pit).

[IrishMike]

A TERROR suspect has said he will tell all about the activities of an alleged terror cell planning violent jihad in Australia.
Izzydeen Atik, 25, acted as a travel agent for the group and claims he knows everything they were up to, Melbourne Magistrates' Court heard yesterday.
Mr Atik was arrested in November as part of a swoop on an alleged terror organisation in Melbourne and Sydney. He and 12 other Melbourne men face charges including providing membership, support and funds to a terrorist group.

[MaDeuce]

Remember that in muslim "law" it is OK to lie to infidels or to further their animalistic cause in the name of allah.

So, when they say they are Austrailians first ... they lie.

Best thing to do ... expell all muslims from the country (and the US) and close down all their mosques. They are muslims first, last, and always; but never anything else.

[IrishMike]

Islam-Christian split
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,18817748%255E1702,00.html

A SYDNEY church leader has used a Good Friday address to tell his congregation that Christianity and Islam cannot both lead to God.

Anglican Dean of Sydney Phillip Jensen told a service at St Andrew's Cathedral that Islam denies some of the Christian beliefs about Jesus.
Islam views Jesus as a prophet but does not believe he was the son of God who died on Good Friday to save humanity from its sins and was resurrected on Easter Sunday.

"Now that Islam has become more common in our society, you need to know the difference between Christianity and Islam," he said.

"For the Koran, and therefore Islam, denies that Christ dies."

[Gamecock]

(with apologies to whomever I swiped this from)

[Barney Gumble]

We could use a few Peter Costellos over here in the US. I'm tired of the pandering and double talk by politicians.

[IrishMike]

Smart AND Good looking.

[sure_fine]

if Australia believed as the muslims then, they wouldn't be allowed in the country to begin with

[JimRed]

(with an Aussie accent) Then mates, move back to the Islamic hellhole your folks came from!

[curmudgeonII]

In February Treasurer Peter Costello was monstered for saying...

How do you monster somebody?

[fporretto]

Do not take the statements of Muslims at face value. Remember taqiyya and kitman.

Muslims today will do or say anything that will avert public attention from the written tenets of their creed. One of those tenets is that Islam is to be the only accepted religion on Earth. Another is that a Muslim may have no other allegiances than to Islam.

Keep your powder dry. The time to use it is approaching.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
Visit Eternity Road:
http://www.eternityroad.info

[Emmet Fitzhume]

"There's no such thing as a Muslim having a non-Muslim friend."

I know. That is why I am armed.

[FBD]

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant...The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." -Omar Ahmad
Co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).