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Idle black men, tragically, aren't just a stereotype
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | April 15, 2006 | Cynthia Tucker

Posted on 04/15/2006 2:42:14 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Dig a little deeper and you'll find a web of stereotypes knotted up with some thorny truths."

Stereotypes weren't just hatched out of nothing. Just as a good joke contains a kernal of truth, so too does a stereotype.

When I was a child growing up in rural Virginia, there was an area that we frequently had to drive through to go downtown. The whole area was virtually littered, day or night, with "idle black men". This was in stark contrast to those who lived in our immediate vicinity who were diligent workers who provided for their families and held to same high moral standards prevalent in our own community. Some were college students.

Even though I grew up where there was a lot of racial prejudice, most white folks made a clear distinction between the two classes of "coloreds." One was treated with civility and a certain degree of respect. The other with utter disdain. There was also a difference in how they were spoke of. The former were simply "colored." The latter were "niggers."

For what it's worth, worthless, lazy white trash was just about as ill thought of.

101 posted on 04/15/2006 7:46:18 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We need to push aside the unions and the bleeding-heart liberals, and go back to the days where even a minor crime got a significant prison term, which was actually served, and during which hard labor was not optional. This huge population of non-working black men is subsisting on a combination of street crime (especially drug sales) and criminal welfare fraud, and there are no penalties for this which they find more unpleasant than doing honest work.


102 posted on 04/15/2006 9:37:03 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: livius
The big problem is our non-workers here, black or white, and the question of what has created such a large proportion of them among blacks in particular.

Used to be that if you didn't work, you didn't eat.

103 posted on 04/16/2006 5:40:21 AM PDT by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Here is a great link.
http://media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/74/07879722/0787972274.pdf

You'll need Adobe Acrobat to read it.


104 posted on 04/22/2006 3:05:18 PM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
We need to push aside the unions and the bleeding-heart liberals, and go back to the days where even a minor crime got a significant prison term, which was actually served, and during which hard labor was not optional.

Could you define what is a "minor" crime, and which is not?

I don't know about you but I don't want to be locked up forever for say, Freeping politicians.

105 posted on 04/22/2006 3:09:26 PM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: pray4liberty

Thank you for the LINK.


106 posted on 04/23/2006 2:01:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

"If sitting next to a white person were a necessity for learing to take place, it'd be a problem of global proportions. There aren't enough white people to go around."


107 posted on 04/23/2006 2:45:48 AM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The pay was hardly exorbitant — $6 an hour.

Raise the pay and you will find these men suddenly much less "lazy." For 6 bucks an hour for such work she was lucky she found anyone for any length of time.

108 posted on 04/23/2006 2:52:08 AM PDT by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: pray4liberty

This example isn't about a black man, but rather a Hispanic man, but the sociological phenomenon is much the same. Remember little Nixmary Brown, whose stepfather beat her to death, after viciously abusing her for years? Well, he committed a "minor crime" and barely got a slap on the wrist. He was apparently working as a messenger, and an Asian man who was working in some similar capacity accidentally bumped into him or brushed up against him as they were both visiting the same office building. The rage-prone stepfather (whose name I have blissfully forgotten) then followed the Asian man out of the building, assaulted him, punching him and inflicted minor cuts on him with a knife or boxcutter.

Now if people who behaved like this were locked up promptly, and not let out until 1) they'd been in long enough to get the message that this sort of thing is a Big Deal and simply not an option, and 2) been subjected to competent psychiatric examination to determine if they have the basic capacity to control themselves, then innocent little kids like Nixmary wouldn't suffer years of torture and sometimes death, and innocent people walking down the street wouldn't be subject to lethal or maiming muggings, etc. So what was the stepfather's punishment for attacking this Asian man? Well, on paper it was a $50 fine and one day of "community service" -- he didn't pay the fine, and didn't do the service, and the court system never went after him.


109 posted on 04/24/2006 10:57:56 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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