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To: churchillbuff
For a long time, I have felt that this war closely resembled Viet Nam because we followed the tactics of "nation-building", "pacification", "winning the hearts of the people", etc. Perhaps this is Rumsfeld's vision, but I have been equally unimpressed by the generals, who have been little more than "yes-men" bureaucrats. Maybe they got their stars by attending cocktail parties and kissing a$$.

Our military should never be placed in a nation-building role, they should be warriors. Leave peace-keeping, nation-building, etc. to someone else.

44 posted on 04/15/2006 8:37:42 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Leave peace-keeping, nation-building, etc. to someone else.

Who's supposed to do that in a country where any viable leadership has already been murdered by the previous dictator? When there is a vacuum, something will try to fill it, if there is not a force in the way to resist it.

The military NEEDS to remain to support that nascent leadership and hold down those elements which would try to stop the growth of a new more just society. In this case, it is the radical Islamists who are coming from all over the world to answer the call of bin Laden, Zawahiri and Zarqawi, NONE of whom are Iraqi, but all know that a representative republic right smack dab in the middle of the Middle East will play havoc with their ideas of Islamic world domination.

90 posted on 04/15/2006 9:00:47 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Pucky of horse. Rumsfield is right on. He was there to change the military from a world war two nation fighting force to one of combating terrorists groups. this is a major change to the way things were being done.

When it comes to a culture change within an organization, 15% of the people are quick adopters, 15 to 45% are average adopters, 20 to 30$ are slow adopters and the rest will never change. You've got to get rid of them.

Rumsfield is on of the greatest, no non sense SOD. To affect change you got to be tough and persisitant. He will do it.


97 posted on 04/15/2006 9:05:48 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

"Our military should never be placed in a nation-building role, they should be warriors. Leave peace-keeping, nation-building, etc. to someone else."

Copy that! Moreover I am disgusted to see "freepers" trashing our retired generals...I doubt not one of these stupid trashers would even qualify to shine their friggin boots.


167 posted on 04/15/2006 10:06:43 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (Sorry Mr. Jefferson, we forfeited the God given rights you all put to pen. We have no excuse.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Our military should never be placed in a nation-building role, they should be warriors. Leave peace-keeping, nation-building, etc. to someone else.

Nation building was a major flip flop by GWB.

332 posted on 04/16/2006 4:57:40 AM PDT by Huck (REINTRODUCE THE REID IMMIGRATION BILL!!!)
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