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'Idiot' says neo-Nazi rally was a prank (Liberal poses as neo-nazi to sabotage Minuteman event)
THE NEWS-TIMES ^ | Apr 15 2006 | Robert Miller

Posted on 04/15/2006 11:28:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

DANBURY – There are no Grey Wolves. The man who claimed to be the Wolves' spokesman is, by his own admission, "an idiot."

"I'm a fool," the man said Friday. "I apologize to the people of Danbury."

The man, who refused to give his name to The News-Times, had disrupted plans by Christian groups to hold a rally on Danbury Green by claiming that the neo-Nazi Grey Wolves would join in to support the rally's aim – to dissolve the barriers between church and state in the United States.

In fact, the man admitted, he made up the name of the group as a prank.

"There are no Grey Wolves," the man said ruefully on Friday. "I feel terrible about this."

With the threat of neo-Nazi violence removed, Danbury police said Friday they would issue the Christian groups a permit to hold the rally on Tuesday. However, the groups said they would move the rally to the Amber Room in Danbury.

"We do not anticipate any problems with this event," Danbury police said in a statement Friday. "But we will have appropriate resources on hand to deal with any crowd control concerns."

Danbury police said Friday night that the man is in his 40s and from the Danbury area, but declined to reveal anything more about the man.

The brouhaha began Wednesday when The News-Times posted a brief article on its Web site announcing that Minutemen United, an Ohio-based Christian organization, planned a rally on the Danbury Green. The group believes the walls between church and state must be removed.

Shortly thereafter, the man – who identified himself as Rick Renage on the phone and Rick Regado in e-mails – contacted The News-Times to say three busloads of Grey Wolves would show up to support Minutemen United. He described the group as having about 200 members who dressed in "black pants, black boots, red sox with black jackets and the swastika branded on the back."

"I personally am not looking for any confrontations, but if we are provoked, we will react very strongly," Renage/Regado wrote.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks hate groups in the United States, said Wednesday it had no knowledge of the Grey Wolves. "We follow these things very closely," Mark Potok, director of the Center's Intelligence Project said Friday. "We never heard of this guy."

This is understandable, since the group does not exist except, briefly, in the mind of a man who says he lives in southern Fairfield County.

When the Danbury Police Department tracked him down Friday, he said he came to the police department immediately to apologize profusely. After going public with his story, he was not charged with any crime.

Through the police, the man then called The News-Times to apologize both to reporter Elizabeth Putnam, whom he lied to, and to the entire newspaper. "I read it all the time," he said. "It's a great paper."

The man described himself as "a liberal, a Democrat and a Christian. It's hard to be all three nowadays."

After reading about the rally, he said, he became incensed.

"I'm sick of people mixing politics with Christianity and Christianity with politics," he said. "I have very strong convictions about the separation of church and state. These people want to create a theocracy."

As a prank, he said, he e-mailed the paper about the Grey Wolves. "I'm an idiot," he said. "Sometimes I do things that just don't make sense."

"It's a prank?" Potok said disdainfully "What's it supposed to accomplish? What did he think? That when he contacted the newspaper and said the Nazis were going to rally, they wouldn't report it?"

Potok said the Southern Poverty Law Center has tracked many hate groups that claim to have thousands of members "but end up being one guy, his computer and his dog." He said the center also has dealt with "people who claim to be Nazis, but are Jewish or gays – the type of people the Nazis would have killed.

"But I have to say, in 10 years of doing this work, this is a first for me," Potok said.

When he read the first account of the Grey Wolves in the News-Times on Thursday, Renage/Regado said, "I hoped it would end today." By Friday, when he learned the city was planning to withdraw the rally permit, he said, "I felt terrible."

The man apologized not only to the city, but to the ministers planning the rally. "I've been through hell and I deserve what I got," he said.

Contact Robert Miller

at bmiller@newstimes.com

or at (203) 731-3345.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: christianity; christianpersecution; fakehatecrimes; idiot; immigration; infiltrators; minutemen; persecution
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"I'm sick of people mixing politics with Christianity and Christianity with politics," he said. "I have very strong convictions about the separation of church and state. These people want to create a theocracy."

As a prank, he said, he e-mailed the paper about the Grey Wolves. "I'm an idiot," he said. "Sometimes I do things that just don't make sense."

1 posted on 04/15/2006 11:28:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Ladycalif; Gelato; Waywardson; Broadside

ping...


2 posted on 04/15/2006 11:30:45 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: EternalVigilance

the 'unnamed" man has learned his lessons from the MSM quite nicely.


3 posted on 04/15/2006 11:31:43 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: EternalVigilance
The man, who refused to give his name to The News-Times, had disrupted plans by Christian groups to hold a rally on Danbury Green by claiming that the neo-Nazi Grey Wolves would join in to support the rally's aim – to dissolve the barriers between church and state in the United States. In fact, the man admitted, he made up the name of the group as a prank. "There are no Grey Wolves," the man said ruefully on Friday. "I feel terrible about this."

In fact, these groups exist only in the fantasies of the lefty fringe. But the Left gets angry whenever this is pointed out.

4 posted on 04/15/2006 11:31:56 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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To: EternalVigilance

A Lib making things up? Say it ain't so!!! </sarc


5 posted on 04/15/2006 11:32:08 AM PDT by JRios1968 (E=mc3...the origin of "friends don't let friends derive drunk.")
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To: EternalVigilance

What's his DUmmy screen name?


6 posted on 04/15/2006 11:32:34 AM PDT by motzman (Dubya needs a "Bullhorn Moment" regarding illegal immigration)
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To: EternalVigilance

Huh. I'm surprised nobody beat the dog feces out of this clown.


7 posted on 04/15/2006 11:34:26 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: EternalVigilance

'Stinkin POS...


8 posted on 04/15/2006 11:35:00 AM PDT by johnny7 (ďNah, I ainít Jewish, I just donít dig on swine, thatís all.Ē)
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To: motzman
What's his DUmmy screen name?

"I'm Sorry (I got caught)"

9 posted on 04/15/2006 11:35:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: EternalVigilance
"The man ... is, by his own admission, "an idiot."
"Three days under strict arrest for idiocy, idiotic beast!", said the colonel... [Yaroslav Hasek, "Brave soldier Sweik"]
What is the proper punishment for idiocy nowadays? Election to a political office?
10 posted on 04/15/2006 11:35:44 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: EternalVigilance
The man described himself as "a liberal, a Democrat and a Christian. It's hard to be all three nowadays."

Considering the guy is a self-admitted LIAR, it's obvious that he's given up being a Christian. Christians do not believe in lying while liberals and Democrats do!

11 posted on 04/15/2006 11:36:25 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (CODE PINK has blood on their hands and they can never, never wash it off)
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To: GSlob
What is the proper punishment for idiocy nowadays? Election to a political office?

A slot in the Carville/Begalla consulting firm...

12 posted on 04/15/2006 11:36:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: EternalVigilance

Figgers.


13 posted on 04/15/2006 11:37:15 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: Doctor Raoul
it's obvious that he's given up being a Christian

You caught that too...

14 posted on 04/15/2006 11:37:28 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: EternalVigilance
The man described himself as "a liberal, a Democrat and a Christian. It's hard to be all three nowadays."

LOL!

Now there's an understatement.

15 posted on 04/15/2006 11:37:52 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: EternalVigilance
"I've been through hell and I deserve what I got," he said.

Typical lib, it's alla about him.

16 posted on 04/15/2006 11:38:42 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (CODE PINK has blood on their hands and they can never, never wash it off)
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To: EternalVigilance

"He was not charged with any crime."

"I've been through hell and I deserve what I got," he said. "

Am I missing something? This rodent thinks he has had something bad happen to him just because he apologized?


17 posted on 04/15/2006 11:39:36 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: JohnLongIsland

The ironic part is this:

This Lefty's modus operandi IS fascist.

Think "Reichstag fire"...

One more bit of evidence that the liberals are the nazis.

"National Socialists", that is...


18 posted on 04/15/2006 11:40:02 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: Luke21

He's just sad that he got caught.


19 posted on 04/15/2006 11:40:28 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: EternalVigilance

I think it stinks that even after he lied to the newspaper they still let him use their newspaper as a platform for his views. We don't even get the real name of the idiot. Oh yeah, but he's so sorry.


20 posted on 04/15/2006 11:44:55 AM PDT by Elyse
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To: Elyse

Yeah, no kidding.

I think those who he slandered should hire a lawyer. Owning his house would just be the bonus on top of making this jerk's name public...


21 posted on 04/15/2006 11:48:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: denydenydeny

The leftists have all sorts of paranoid fantasies about Christians turning America into a theocracy, yet these same leftists ignore or even support it when Islamists say they want to ban all religion in America and Europe except Islam and impose Sharia on everyone. The fact that the Islamists borrowed most of their political philosophy from the Nazis does not bother the average leftist. Indeed, anyone opposed to Islamofascism is a "Nazi," in their twisted thinking.


22 posted on 04/15/2006 11:51:59 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: EternalVigilance

"I'm an idiot," he said. "Sometimes I do things that just don't make sense."

--


It may not be much comfort to him, but he is not alone, he should move to Hollywood.


23 posted on 04/15/2006 11:54:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: EternalVigilance

I figured the Grey Wolves were a group of seasoned citizens.


24 posted on 04/15/2006 11:58:53 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: NormsRevenge
It may not be much comfort to him, but he is not alone, he should move to Hollywood.

You betcha! Hollywood IS the home of paranoid leftwing delusions! :-)

25 posted on 04/15/2006 12:03:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: EternalVigilance

They are one-upping the Nazis, they're "transnational" socialists. Jews aren't going to fare any better though if that crowd gets its way.


26 posted on 04/15/2006 12:11:36 PM PDT by thoughtomator (That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
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To: Doctor Raoul; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Liz
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A liberal democrat Christian?

Really?

That is likely self-serving camo.

Reread what the radical liberal Southern Poverty Law Center said:

"Potok said the Southern Poverty Law Center has tracked many hate groups that claim to have thousands of members "but end up being one guy, his computer and his dog." He said the center also has dealt with "people who claim to be Nazis, but are Jewish or gays – the type of people the Nazis would have killed."


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27 posted on 04/15/2006 12:13:03 PM PDT by devolve ((----Kimberly Guilfoyle - bicoastal or another thespian?))
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To: EternalVigilance

Maybe they won't release his name , because it is Howard Dean.


28 posted on 04/15/2006 12:16:53 PM PDT by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: builder

LOL...could be!


29 posted on 04/15/2006 12:17:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: thoughtomator
Jews aren't going to fare any better though if that crowd gets its way.

You're absolutely right. And neither will Christians...at least Christians who are actually salt and light.

30 posted on 04/15/2006 12:19:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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RE: the liar was not named.

Was his name John Bachelor?

On Bachelor's 13 April show his guest (an expert in matters of "white supremacy") failed to provide Bachelor with proof that "anti-immigrant bigots" -- especially the Minute Men -- were all white supremacists.

Bachelor had to settle for just issuing a warning to "anti-immigrant bigots" that they had better watch their language. More than once he mentioned the Minute Men claiming possible connections to something called Stormfront.

31 posted on 04/15/2006 12:39:11 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Globalism: a Marxist revolution from the top down? The Third Way loves it.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Standard MO for lying leftists. See Phelps, Fred


32 posted on 04/15/2006 12:47:36 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: EternalVigilance
The man described himself as "a liberal, a Democrat and a Christian. It's hard to be all three nowadays."

Correction: The man described himself as a liberal, a Democrat, a Christian, a Liar and an Idiot. Is he running for Congress, the head of the DNC or President? He seems pretty well qualified for a Democrat. ;)
33 posted on 04/15/2006 12:51:11 PM PDT by Chgogal (The US Military fights for Freedom of the Press while the NYT lies about the Military and cowers...)
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To: SouthTexas
Hi SouthTexas-

We were thinking the same thing...I think the harmless group of older retired guys with whom my father meets for coffee call themselves the Gray Wolves or something! It would make a great name for a music band comprised of oldsters.

~ Blue Jays ~

34 posted on 04/15/2006 12:53:35 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays

In Chicago, we used to call the aldermen of the City Council the Grey Wolves - grey because of their corruption, wolves for their rapaciousness in seeking to profit illegally from their offices.


35 posted on 04/15/2006 12:56:49 PM PDT by karnage
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To: EternalVigilance

36 posted on 04/15/2006 1:10:52 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Chgogal

;-)


37 posted on 04/15/2006 1:28:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Bachelor had to settle for just issuing a warning to "anti-immigrant bigots" that they had better watch their language. More than once he mentioned the Minute Men claiming possible connections to something called Stormfront.

Sadly, I've seen a few here on FR use pretty much the same tactics.

38 posted on 04/15/2006 1:29:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: Elyse

I'm wondering why the reporter for the newspaper didn't check out the story before it was put up on the website.

Also, why would that newspaper protect his identity? If someone tried to cause a panic in my town, I'd sure want to know who it was, and why that person would set out deliberately to upset people.

I don't live in Danbury, CT but I am interested in knowing who manipulated the local press like that, and got away with it. That is just plain wrong.


39 posted on 04/15/2006 1:33:57 PM PDT by ishabibble (UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL)
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To: EternalVigilance
The man who claimed to be the Wolves' spokesman is, by his own admission, "an idiot."

Acknowledging the problem is the first step to recovery...

40 posted on 04/15/2006 2:00:20 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: EternalVigilance
Minutemen United, an Ohio-based Christian organization, planned a rally on the Danbury Green. The group believes the walls between church and state must be removed.

This is a bit misleading. They are probably protesting the constitutionalization of the concept "separation of church and state", which was on a letter from Jefferson to the Baptists in Danbury. Presumably the Minutemen United group do not object to the First Amendment prohibition on religious establishment or restrictions on the free exercise of religion.

41 posted on 04/15/2006 2:06:02 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam

I'd guess that that would be the case, though I don't really know, not being familiar with the organization in question.


42 posted on 04/15/2006 2:11:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: EternalVigilance
When he read the first account of the Grey Wolves in the News-Times on Thursday, Renage/Regado said, "I hoped it would end today." By Friday, when he learned the city was planning to withdraw the rally permit, he said, "I felt terrible."

Of course the Slate and Chisel reports on the group w/o finding out if the group exists. Reports what they believe about Christians not what is.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

43 posted on 04/15/2006 2:20:00 PM PDT by bray (Racists for Rice '08)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Acknowledging the problem is the first step to recovery...

Heh...indeed it is...

44 posted on 04/15/2006 2:23:44 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: bray
Reports what they believe about Christians not what is.

With liberals, it's a way of life...

45 posted on 04/15/2006 2:25:12 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: EternalVigilance
Not only is the man an idiot, but the paper permitted his opinion of the group, "Minutemen United" to go unchallenged. Even They describe Minutemen in the article as a group that wants to: "remove the walls between church and state."

The Idiot says: "I'm sick of people mixing politics with Christianity and Christianity with politics," he said. "I have very strong convictions about the separation of church and state. These people want to create a theocracy."

In other words, his words align perfectly with those of the newspaper.

However, the website for MinutemenUnited, easily accessed because I found it in just under a minute with a simple google search, says:

Our Mission

To unite and mobilize God-fearing Ameri­cans as an effective, recognized force dedicated to restoring and upholding our Judeo-Christian values as the bedrock of this distinctly-American culture. America is at the crossroads. The enemies of God are relentless in their attack. Paul warns us that "Faith without works is dead." (Rom. 3:28) For too long Chris­tians have been reactionary, sticking our thumbs in the dike when the enemy at­tacks. The Minutemen are a pro­active network of believers ready at a mo­ment's notice to do battle for the cause of Christ.

For more information on getting involved with our efforts, please contact us.

To learn more about supporting the Minutemen financially, go to our support page.

The minutemen site can be found here: http://minutemenunited.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=14

Incidentally, I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the Minutemen group.

46 posted on 04/15/2006 4:03:16 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: xzins

Very nice.


47 posted on 04/15/2006 4:05:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: EternalVigilance

How many other such fake groups or "wackos" exist only to cause problems for conservatives.


48 posted on 04/15/2006 4:07:14 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Good question.


49 posted on 04/15/2006 4:18:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org - America wasn't built and defended by those who whined "It's too hard!")
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To: longtermmemmory

"God hates fags"

Ring a bell?


50 posted on 04/15/2006 4:25:30 PM PDT by stands2reason
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