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Life in the Green Lane (hybrids)
NY Times ^
| April 16, 2006
| JAMIE LINCOLN KITMAN
Posted on 04/16/2006 10:16:07 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: Fielding
You're more likely to die in a small car, especially in a totalled hybrid - the firemen don't want to touch the thing for fear they'll get electrocuted, and in the meantime, you bleed out. Same thing for truly small cars, like Geo Metros or Honda CRX HFs. Down here, they get so badly wadded that the occupants quite often bleed out before they can cut the wreckage apart to get to them.
With modern safety gear, the chances of motorcycle rider death have been greatly reduced.
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posted on
04/16/2006 10:53:00 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: neverdem
Hybrid cars suck. They consume more energy to build than the average American auto burns from dust to dust. I can build a hybrid that will go 200 mph, but it will need new batteries after five miles. Snake oil.:)
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posted on
04/16/2006 10:54:05 PM PDT
by
Fielding
(Sans Dieu Rien)
To: Fielding
I disagree. Hybrids are great in some driving situations; the fallacy is in generalizing their applicability in ALL situations.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
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posted on
04/16/2006 10:55:55 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: neverdem
What an enormous waste of money
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posted on
04/16/2006 10:58:51 PM PDT
by
Porterville
(I gave at the State Franchise Board; leave me alone you blood sucking liberal.)
To: Spktyr
Ask your friendly insurance agent! Commuting on a bike (powered or pedaled) is Russian roulette>
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posted on
04/16/2006 10:59:35 PM PDT
by
Fielding
(Sans Dieu Rien)
To: goldstategop
We can agree to disagree. :)
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posted on
04/16/2006 11:02:03 PM PDT
by
Fielding
(Sans Dieu Rien)
To: Fielding
$250/yr, full coverage on a liter bike.
What does a Prius cost to insure per year, again?
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posted on
04/16/2006 11:11:58 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
Ask about your life insurance policy. Most whole line and term policies have clauses that exclude foolish behavior... P.S. I have a vintage street motorcycle. 1974 Honda 360. I ride it twice a year maximum.
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posted on
04/16/2006 11:18:17 PM PDT
by
Fielding
(Sans Dieu Rien)
To: Fielding
Mine doesn't preclude me from that - it does, however, not apply if I, say, ride without a helmet.
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posted on
04/16/2006 11:47:37 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: neverdem
This is just an anecdotal story, believe it or not. My friend in SLC has a friend who runs his electric battery powered bike with a MEG(taps into space energy, supposedly 2/3rds of the universe)as a regenerator-on-the-fly. He doesn't pay anything for transportation fuel, how much with hybrids or whatnot, do you pay? Don't believe it? Ok, fine...and big oil...smiles...
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posted on
04/16/2006 11:57:51 PM PDT
by
timer
To: gondramB
<< ... a major problem with the way people are using hybrids - that they are using the brakes rather than letting the energy be reabsorbed and stored ... >>
An even bigger problem is that they are redundant.
Hybrids are a socialists' response to the absoluite absence of any demand worthy of the use of the word.
If folks really gave a darn about gas economy, Europe's incredibly energy-efficient 65MPG modern diesels would be the way to go. And they're WAY better looking.
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posted on
04/17/2006 1:20:55 AM PDT
by
Brian Allen
(How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
To: Brian Allen
"Hybrids are a socialists' response to the absoluite absence of any demand worthy of the use of the word.
If folks really gave a darn about gas economy, Europe's incredibly energy-efficient 65MPG modern diesels would be the way to go. And they're WAY better looking."
Well, over the long run, recovering braking energy is a good idea.
But government subsidies to lower the price when the technology won't pay for itself is another sotry.
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posted on
04/17/2006 2:22:06 AM PDT
by
gondramB
(Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
To: Spktyr
A better option, perhaps, would be to buy a motorcycle.
Welcome to West Ho Chi Minh City.
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posted on
04/17/2006 3:26:44 AM PDT
by
WideGlide
(That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
To: neverdem
I thought I read the hybrid sales figures are declining this spring. They're a hokey, Rube Goldberg non-solution to the energy debate and pretty much the darling of the Leftists.
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posted on
04/17/2006 4:38:29 AM PDT
by
RoadTest
(The wicked love darkness; but God's people love the Light!)
To: gondramB
"A physicist in California told me there is a major problem with the way people are using hybrid that they are using the brakes rather than letting the energy be reabsorbed" I think the physicist is mistaken. Most hybrid vehicles have regenerative braking. Some of the braking energy is used to recharge the batteries. The brakes must be applied to enable the feature. However, the recharging feature is very inefficient, for various reasons, and only a fraction of the braking energy is actually restored to the batteries. If you simply coast down to stop, a hybrid technology vehicle has no inherent fuel saving advantages over a conventionally powered vehicle (unless the engine is shut down during the coast down).
To: norwaypinesavage
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posted on
04/17/2006 5:08:22 AM PDT
by
gondramB
(Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
To: RandallFlagg
Some 25yrs. or so ago I saw a show on NOVA. The title was 'The Invisible Flame." It was about using hydrogen for energy. They reported on a town (in Colorado I believe) that switched to hydrogen. Have you any recent info on this?
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posted on
04/17/2006 5:16:51 AM PDT
by
Roccus
To: timer
Bearden is a quack. He's been pushing that nonsense MEG for at least 15 years. Get the name of your friend of a friend. I'll pay him $10,000 tomorrow to prove his technology to me.
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posted on
04/17/2006 5:23:13 AM PDT
by
Malsua
To: Roccus
Nope. First I'd heard of this.
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posted on
04/17/2006 5:46:22 AM PDT
by
RandallFlagg
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