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To: Polybius
If you don't know what is wrong with a national ID then I can't explain it to you. It should be obvious to any freedom loving individual what is wrong with them.

No, a person doesn't become "whiter" after they become citizens(have a little agenda do you?). However, all employers are supposed to check SS numbers when they hire someone, we already have that database online and ready for use. Green cards should be tied to temporary SS numbers. If an employer checks someones SS number and it is already being used by Mary in Utah, then it can't belong to Joe in CA.

The means to check ILLEGAL ALIENS when they hire on is already at hand. We don't need a bunch of new laws and regulations gumming up the freedoms of US citizens.

Enforce the laws, jail and fine employers who hire ILLEGALS and they will deport themselves when no work is available. We have no need to turn our country into a police state to do this.

80 posted on 04/19/2006 4:14:55 AM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: calex59
If you don't know what is wrong with a national ID then I can't explain it to you. It should be obvious to any freedom loving individual what is wrong with them.

Do you mean just as it should be "obvious" that the Nazi idea of the Autobahn (which President Eisenhower transplanted to the U.S. as the U.S. Interstate Highway system) is a threat to every freedom-loving individual?

The Autobahn was created in Germany so that the German Army could move rapidly an in massive numbers to anywhere in Germany the German leaders wanted it. Try doing that over the old U.S. 1 or over the old Route 66.

That, if anything, would be a Nazi idea that would "obviously" give a massive amount of power to a Government that was going to rule a people by force.

Other than knee-jerk emotionalism, what, exactly, makes building the Autobahn in America O.K. but using the National ID Card for certain purposes "obviously" a horror?

However, all employers are supposed to check SS numbers when they hire someone, we already have that database online and ready for use. Green cards should be tied to temporary SS numbers. If an employer checks someones SS number and it is already being used by Mary in Utah, then it can't belong to Joe in CA.

So, how's that fantastic system working out for us so far?

If that system worked better than a bucket of warm spit, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now.

Leaving enforcement up to the very employers who make tons of money by hiring illegal aliens is like contracting out airport security to the Muslim Brotherhood.

A National ID card that is bar-coded (as all U.S. Passports are now required to be) takes enforcement of illegal hiring out of the hands of the illegal employers and puts it into the same U.S. Government computers who know exactly where you live and how much money you earned on your checking account at your local bank.

As it is right now, the U.S. Government already knows everything there is to know about you but knows nothing about the illegal alien that the painting contractor sent over to paint your house.

83 posted on 04/19/2006 7:13:52 AM PDT by Polybius
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