Posted on 04/18/2006 7:06:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
If our Generals are acting like John Wayne, then we have the best Generals in the world and we are in good hands.
Thanks for reply.
Actually I DONT think that the British would have been better at the brealout,it was CORRECT that we pin down and you exploit,as the US had the larger more mobile force and the British are best at brutal point blank attrition.
My point is that the post ww2 criticism of Monty and the Anglo-Canadian-Polish forces is ridiculous when you consider A-the strategy,which WAS for the Anglo-Can-Pol forces to indulge in attrition,and B-what that eastern force actually faced in doing A,against the cream of German armour and SS...
The same can be said for Sicily.
I am happy and proud that the British took the Germans on point blank and defeated them.I just wish the (mainly US)critics would actually look at 1944,and they would see the 'too slow' argument is offensive nonsense....
Stepan,only the idiot left mocks...
We have had 80 yrs of IRA terrorism remember,so we know all about terrorists thank you...
He's likening them to Michael Keaton?
Don't pull this scheiss unsin with me! I remember the idiot Britisher who said that she began to cry when Arafat was airlifted to the French hospital. Your overated novelist, John LeCarre, bragged about putting his hand on Arafat's chest so he could feel "his Palestinian heart." And what did Lady Milloy say about I can't stand the Jews and it's all their fault? And then bragged that all the Britishers at the dinner party with her agree with her on that. I could go on and on, so please don't pull this with me.
Btw... before the July bombing that took 57 Londoners lives had happened, an Israeli/Jewish victim of terrorism warned you europeans not to snicker too much over the terrorism against the Jews because it would happen to you next. She was absolutely right! click here: You're next, buddies!
Stepan,you are talking about a tiny London 'literati' minority:LeCarre(who IS a brilliant novelist,even though I disagree with his politics),the lady who was a BBC reporter,Lady Milloy.
The vast majority of British people thought Arafat a terrorist.Even some on the left.
And to tell us 'were next'?...as if Britain has never been bombed
Mate,the IRA has been bombing Britain since the 1920's!.No to mention the homegrown bombs of the Angry Brigade,the extreme Scots nationalists,the animal rights nuts in the 80's....
Britain has more experience of terrorism than any Western nation and we dont need to be 'told' ANYTHING about terrorism thank you...
How the hell could I forget the Irgun and the Stern Gang?...
I wonder how many Americans and Westerners generally know of the Jewish terrorists of the 1940's?.And that the Stern Gang actually met with the Nazis!...
http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/irgunazi.htm
Hi Scotsman in your list of the bombers of Britain you left out the Nazi's. I suspect the Stern Gang were meeting the Nazi's at the same time the Luftwaffe was attempting to bomb England into submission
Well the German bombing in both wars was military,I suppose rather than terrorism(in the civilian sense).
----there you go, trying to confuse the babblers with facts.
In regards to what our armchair field marshal had to say about Montgomery; he seems to me to have been cold-blooded and ruthless.
I was recently looking at a Division History for one of the US National Army divisions from the First World War which spoke of the concentration camp where the division assembled. The book was published in 1920.
PS, After the big reorganization during the teens, the US Army had Regular Army Divisions; National Guard Divisions and National Army Divisions.
{If anyone desires to correct my above post----have at it}.
Take your point although I suspect the civilians in the East End might not or the civilians in Dresden.Father was Lancaster/Liberator aircrew(WOP/AG)1943/1945 but will never talk about it but he did give me his flying log books.
Hello Rockpile.
I have to utterly disagree.
Arrogant and pompous yes,but when it came to his men,absolutely not.
Remember that he had been in the slaughter of ww1 and that is why he was cautious('too slow' to his critics)and why he only attacked when he had built up sufficient forces,a la El Alamein or the 1945 crossing of the Rhine or Ops Epsom or Goodwood.Also remember that he could not be so,given the finite British manpower of 1944-45...
Monty was anything but ruthless with his men in terms of committing them to battle...
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