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To: Wallace T.
Your comparison of the Illegal Aliens to "Foreign Invaders" is ridiculous and disgusting. They just want a better life for themselves and their families. That is exactly the same type of people who have created the America that we know today.

Your attempt to use fear tactics to promote your agenda is pathetic.

42 posted on 04/20/2006 7:09:01 AM PDT by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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To: LPM1888
"That is exactly the same type of people who have created the America that we know today."

No, the people who created the America that we know today immigrated LEGALLY.

What part of ILLEGAL seems to escape your comprehension.

Title 8 - Section 1025 states that anyone who fails to pass through an inspection when entering the country is guilty of a misdemeanor. After being deported and again entering without inspection, the charge is elevated to a felony. The law is on the books, Nimrod.

46 posted on 04/20/2006 7:13:58 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: LPM1888

They just want a better life for themselves and their families



So do I, does this mean I get to break into the big house on the hill with a pool and 4 acres of land, and I get the "right" to live there for the rest of my life? If anyone that lives there already has a problem, does that make them bigots or just p.o.'ed homeowners?

I just want a better life!


52 posted on 04/20/2006 7:16:58 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: LPM1888
My forbears came to the United States legally, obeyed the laws, paid taxes, and in due time became citizens. My ancestors all spoke English when they arrived on these shores, but many millions did not, yet learned the language and customs of this nation and became as good a group of citizens as did my particular forbears. Furthermore, they did not demand a full panoply of cradle to grave social services. About the only thing they received from government was a public education, and a better one than what we have now. Those who came later from my ancestors, through Ellis Island, were also screened for diseases and quarantined or even returned if they were too ill. (Remember the scene in The Godfather Part II where a young Vito Corleone, just arrived from Sicily, was quarantined for several months by U.S. public health officials.) Illegal aliens are not so screened. The reappearance of certain diseases in this country, such as tuberculosis, can be blamed on these people.

It is an insult to compare the law abiding, assimilating, immigrants of old, my ancestors included, and for that matter, those who use legal means to enter America today, with the hordes of law defying people who refuse to assimilate and demand a full range of welfare services and rights that do not exist in their native lands. The most radical of them demand that the Southwest become "Atzlan", separate from the United States and united with Mexico. At the rallies, Communist and Hispanic racist banners were quite evident, unless you get your news from the MSM.

The United States is a nation, just as Mexico, Italy, Nigeria, etc. A nation is defined, in part, by physical borders. It is not a public space for everyone on the planet who wants to come here. If you don't like the idea of national sovereignty, perhaps you would be more comfortable over at DU, where your co-thinkers reside in great numbers.

101 posted on 04/20/2006 7:47:02 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: LPM1888
I sympathize with those trying to make a better life, however, you are full of it (in a polite way).

It is an Invasion, no doubt, because they are coming by the millions.

My question is just who is it that is coming in?

Are they vaccinated? No.

Are they willing to work for lower wages with no benefits to replace the American worker who is in process of pay his taxes and raising his family at the current standard of living? Yes.

Just how many are of Islamic terrorist affiliation? Who knows?

How many are educated at all? Who knows.

How many are serious criminals? Who knows.

So, with a respectful manner, anyone with your naive disposition are more than willing to pay for the flood of illegals, cause I do not want to and should not have to.

You should see at exactly what France, Germany, and Great Britain have done recently to curb the flow. Those European economies are suffering because of 10%-30% unemployment. Remember the recent wave of violent demonstrations in France?

You'd best better WAKE UP!!

126 posted on 04/20/2006 8:12:01 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: LPM1888

Your comparison of the Illegal Aliens to "Foreign Invaders" is ridiculous and disgusting. They just want a better life for themselves and their families. That is exactly the same type of people who have created the America that we know today.""

SOOOOO- "A better life" includes:

Driving a car here in the USA and not having a car in Mexico??? So where are they "learning to drive a car??
Having no proper driver's license here and never needing one in Mexico???
Not being able to read the road signs here and causing traffic problems they never caused in Mexico???
Clogging our schools with students who cannot read nor write in English, effectively preventing YOUR CHILD from getting a proper American education because progress in the classroom all grinds to a halt with "students" who don't have schools to attend in Mexico???
Getting free medical care in our hospitals and delivery rooms when they barely got bandaids in Mexico??? When you get hurt and no longer have a trauma room to go to, remember that I wrote this. If you don't know how many hospitals and emergency trauma rooms have closed in the Los Angeles area, educate yourselves. The media doesn't want to talk about it, and the politicos don't want to admit how bad the problem is.
Operating Meth labs to "make a living" here in the USA which is easier than making it in Mexico and trying to sneak it across the border past the sniffer dogs??? Such meth labs are polluting our streams and rivers more than our industry, and they are becoming a danger to vacationers trying to use our park and forest lands. There are places where hiking and riding no longer occur because of being shot at. I have lost trails due to this. The cops cannot find them in the forests. Too easy to hide.
Joining gangs and creating an untold burden on the judicial system nationwide which was never solved when they were criminals in Mexico??? Even the ones not in gangs are a criminal problem.
Bringing the wonderful "cultural art" called graffitti to the USA and a building/wall/truck/railroad car near you when they wouldn't deface their hometown in Mexico the same way???
Taking jobs that your kids and grandkids are never going to be able to take- construction, etc- and being unable to read instructions, labels, etc and doing shoddy work on a house/building that you are expected to buy????? They live in shacks in Mexico, so they don't KNOW HOW to build a damn thing. NOt all American kids are going to go to college and become CEO's. Our kids need vocational apprenticeships that are being taken by illegal intruders.
Working in the agricultural industry and because they are unable to read ENGLISH labels, putting the wrong product on a field being prepared for WATERMELONS instead of cotton, causing poison deaths years ago near Bakersfield because the watermelons became the cause of death and severe sickness. The sacks of pesticide even had skull and crossbones on them, and the illegal workers still put on the wrong stuff when preparing the field. The entire watermelon sales hit the skids that year and other farmers who grew them correctly were on the brink of bankruptcy.
Now almost every pesticide- along with toooooo many other products is labeled in both English and SPANISH. This is an assumption that the uneducated fool can read in ANY language.
Letting illegal intruders VOTE in a country where they have to RIGHT to vote, and don't understand what they are voting for, when they most likely never voted in MEXICO????

I have some news for alot of you people who live somewhere other than So Cal. There actually were houses in the 60's and 70's that DID NOT have every window covered with bars, and the "security" industry hardly existed for a residential application. It just wasn't a problem then.
Now, you have to have both, and still they steal you blind.
I can remember when you were supposed to keep your vehicle registration either on your visor or on your steering column in California. They got that changed when it became evident that illegal intruders working as "valets" parking cars in toney restaurants and at the "opera" etc, were part of gangs that did burglaries while you were out dining or enjoying your favorite tenor.
All insured Americans in every category are paying thru the nose for insurance because of the intrusion of illegal intruders?? Is there even insurance in Mexico? Or is it just called extortion? I pay over 30% of my current auto premium for "uninsured motorists" and in 1993 I paid less than 1/2 of ONE PERCENT for the same coverage. Tell me that isn't because of the illegal intruders. Look at your own insurance and prove me wrong. I have the documents. I will share the info.
Those of us who have lived it up close and personal are not paranoid. We know what we have seen and experienced. Do NOT pander to US that these intruders are "only looking for a better life". I have worked fair and square for myself to have "a better life" and now I am not nearly safe enough in my own country. Explain to me the fairness in this situation. Use small words- I am not real bright, I guess, by your standards.

The problem is IMBEDDED deeper than you realize.
They DO NOT want to assimilate into out culture. They want to take back a large portion of this country.
Wake Up America.


132 posted on 04/20/2006 8:20:15 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: LPM1888
Well they may want a better life but when we (hopefully all hypothetical) grant amnesty then what? more will come over and more and more the tide will not stem. What, do you think the Economy is some fairy tale candy land with purple gum drops and money grows on trees where everyone can bask in rich oceans of caramel cream? It will not sustain the coming onslaught. You would destroy America or at least balkanize it for the happiness of a few? And after they are dead and gone? You my friend first compare this wall to the Berlin wall and then say this is not an Invasion? You need to read some history.
135 posted on 04/20/2006 8:24:30 AM PDT by Xenophon450 (Behead those who say Islam is violent)
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To: LPM1888
Your comparison of the Illegal Aliens to "Foreign Invaders" is ridiculous and disgusting. They just want a better life for themselves and their families. That is exactly the same type of people who have created the America that we know today.

Your head is so deep in the sand I'm surprised you haven't suffocated already.

146 posted on 04/20/2006 8:38:40 AM PDT by houeto (Report Illegals. http://www.ice.gov/partners/employers/worksite/index.htm)
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To: LPM1888

"Your comparison of the Illegal Aliens to "Foreign Invaders" is ridiculous and disgusting."

Your smokin' crack. they are invaders, plain and simple. They thumb their noses at the laws of this land. Everyone here realizes the reason they come, but those reasons DO NOT excuse their illegal crossing. No one here here wants to stop LEGAL immigration, we want ILLEGAL immigration stoped. Your excuses are ridiculous!


151 posted on 04/20/2006 8:44:19 AM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: LPM1888
That is exactly the same type of people who have created the America that we know today.

Nonsense.

My grand parents came here legally. They were invited.

175 posted on 04/20/2006 9:14:35 AM PDT by Protagoras (The world is full of successful idiots and genius failures.)
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To: LPM1888

Millions of poor people all around the world "just want a better life for themselves and their families." Should they all be allowed to swarm in here too at will, and illegally? If your answer to the question is no, then why should Central and South Americans be allowed to come here illegally and at will?


178 posted on 04/20/2006 9:25:53 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: LPM1888
"Your attempt to use fear tactics to promote your agenda is pathetic."

Your ridiculing someone who doesn't agree with you is what's pathetic. If they 'just want a better life for themselves and their families', then how do you explain the Mexican flags being displayed, all the talk about reclaiming what they lost to the U. S two centuries ago, and the simple fact that they acted illegally by simply entering this country in the first place?

If they are solely interested in bettering themselves, then they should have the character and comportment to go through the proper legal channels and obtain visas. If not, then they don't warrant or deserve my respect nor compassion. And, neither do you.

180 posted on 04/20/2006 9:30:25 AM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" - Anonymous)
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To: LPM1888

Enablers like you are more dangerous than the invaders.


205 posted on 04/20/2006 10:07:26 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: LPM1888
They just want a better life for themselves and their families.

Just two months ago, I heard a drug dealer tell a judge that's why he was breaking the law. I'm glad the judge didn't think like you.

301 posted on 04/21/2006 12:10:19 AM PDT by SUSSA
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