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Poll: US Jews uninterested in shul
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Posted on 04/20/2006 4:10:00 PM PDT by avile
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posted on
04/20/2006 4:10:02 PM PDT
by
avile
To: avile
In case I'm not the only one who didnt know waht Shul meant. >> shul (shʊl, shūl) pronunciation n. Judaism. A synagogue.
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posted on
04/20/2006 4:12:15 PM PDT
by
gondramB
(You can always tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs - Country music saying)
To: avile
What is happening is that the non-Orthodox strains of the religion have been given over to PC-ism and secularism. Just like in any other religion, the strains that stand for nothing ultimately give their adherents no reason to devote themselves to it.
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posted on
04/20/2006 4:13:15 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
To: avile
To: thoughtomator
Fear not...reform jews have a birth rate lowe tha nmost western europeans. Within 100 years there will be no more reforms jews left. Reform judiasm will be seen in the 6000 year history of judiasm as a failed curious experiment..worthy of only a footnote.
I saw somewhere that 100 reform jews in 3-4 generations wil result in less than 20 members, while 100 orthodox jews in 3-4 generations will result in something like 2000 memebers
To: thoughtomator
A pretty convincing answer to the question: How come so many Jews vote for liberal Democrats?
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posted on
04/20/2006 4:18:11 PM PDT
by
A Balrog of Morgoth
(With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
To: A Balrog of Morgoth
Within a generation, conservative Jews will outnumber left-wing Jews by the difference in birth rates alone.
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posted on
04/20/2006 4:20:51 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
To: georgia2006; thoughtomator; A Balrog of Morgoth
1 word, INTERMARRIAGE. Hey, people fall in love.
To: LauraleeBraswell
1 word, INTERMARRIAGE. Hey, people fall in love
I wasn't talking about just Jews. I suspect you'd find that, in general*, you'll find that the more secular a group of people is, the more likely they are to vote for the local socialist, err, Democrat.
*Yes, I know there are a atheist/agnostic freepers who's conservatism is beyond reproach.
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posted on
04/20/2006 4:43:15 PM PDT
by
A Balrog of Morgoth
(With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
To: avile
I have never understood why so many Jews are agnostic or athiest. I just does not make sense to me. Can someone explain it I have read or thought of a few things. To follow the religion truthfully takes alot of time and pious ritual. Many lived under communist or socialist governments. After the Holocaust some did not want to be associated as a group so they gave up their religion.
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posted on
04/20/2006 5:31:09 PM PDT
by
therut
To: therut
There have always been a lot of Jewish intellectuals throughout history. Unfortunately, over the past two centuries, being an intellectual has become synonymous with embracing socialism, which is atheistic.
There's a lot of Jews who are torn between being proud of their intellectual lineage (from Spinozza to Einstein)and wanting to be viewed as thoroughly modern thinkers, which means rejecting religion.
It's sort of like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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posted on
04/20/2006 5:54:13 PM PDT
by
The Fop
To: therut
It's hard to explain. If you take the ACLU, the majority of its national and state leadership is comprised of secular Jews.
They are working to support radical Muslims, who want to destroy them. It doesn't make sense.
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posted on
04/20/2006 5:55:18 PM PDT
by
BW2221
To: avile
Its liberal Jews who don't go to shul. I suspect a rabbi preaching liberal sermons is as exciting as a Democratic politician delivering liberal bromides. Why bother if you can get the same thing outside shul? Liberalism cum Judaism has no real future.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
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posted on
04/20/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: avile
I go to shul, even though they all know I ain't Jewish...by birth or conversion that is.
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posted on
04/20/2006 6:02:54 PM PDT
by
onedoug
To: onedoug
So, if you don't mind me asking, why do you go?
To: A Balrog of Morgoth
A pretty convincing answer to the question: How come so many Jews vote for liberal Democrats?They worship the golden calf...
To: therut
In Eastern Europe where the majority of Jews lived 100 years ago there was various levels of observance. However , the proportion of fervently religious was significantly greater than now in America.
Unfortunately whne many Jews came to America in the Ellis Island era, very few of those very observant came. Basically the least observant came at that wave and the current American Orthodox community is largely the survivors of Hitler.
The former are liberal irreligious and marched for civil rights but didn't rally against Hitler or for Israel.
The latter are the opposite.
The fromer voted for Gore the latter for Bush
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posted on
04/20/2006 7:34:15 PM PDT
by
avile
To: avile
"This is a statistical cri de coeur from our people," Rabbi David Wolpe of Sinai Temple in Los Angeles told The Jerusalem Post. "If things continue as they are we will produce a generation of Jews who will be irretrievably lost." David Wolpe is the same modern thinker who told his congregation, 5 years ago on Passover, "The Exodus never happened."
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posted on
04/20/2006 7:38:39 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Psalms of the Day: 106-107)
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posted on
04/20/2006 7:39:56 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Psalms of the Day: 106-107)
To: Alouette
No wonder there's a problem, if that's coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders.
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posted on
04/20/2006 7:48:28 PM PDT
by
Alexander Rubin
(Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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