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Ex-Taliban Envoy Warns U.S. to Negotiate
AP ^ | April 21 2006 | PAUL GARWOOD

Posted on 04/21/2006 5:32:59 PM PDT by jmc1969

Violence will persist in Afghanistan unless the U.S.-led coalition starts to negotiate with the toppled Taliban regime and other armed groups, the Taliban's former ambassador to Pakistan told The Associated Press.

The warning from Abdul Salam Zaeef, a former Guantanamo Bay prisoner, came this week as fighting continued in the Afghan countryside. A U.S. soldier was killed Friday in a gunbattle and suspected Taliban militants killed six Afghan policemen, afterward burning four of their bodies.

In recent months, Afghanistan has seen a surge in bombings and shootings targeting coalition troops and Afghan forces, particularly in southern Taliban strongholds near the Pakistan border. The violence has grown even though many former Taliban fighters have been welcomed by the government under an amnesty program.

Zaeef's call was rejected Friday by U.S. and Afghan authorities, who said military action was the only way to bring to justice the militants with blood on their hands.

"I think the problem (of violence) is increasing and people have to decide whether they will solve it through use of power or negotiation," Zaeef told The Associated Press on Thursday at his heavily guarded house on the outskirts of the capital, Kabul. "Afghanistan needs reconciliation but I don't think the Americans want to negotiate."

"We know the Taliban and (Gulbuddin) Hekmatyar (the renegade former premier now wanted by the United States) can do something (against the coalition) and create further problems," Zaeef said. "Afghanistan is not like Germany and Japan."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; gwot; taliban
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Negotiation like we have done in Iraq wouldn't be a bad idea to seperate the Taliban that care about material possessions from the true religious nuts and al-Qaeda, but anything more then that is laughable.
1 posted on 04/21/2006 5:33:00 PM PDT by jmc1969
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Afghanistan is not like Germany and Japan."

unconditional surrender worked pretty good then.............
2 posted on 04/21/2006 5:36:13 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: jmc1969

I suggest we negotiate by placing notes on the munitions we send in. When they get the message, there will be peace.


3 posted on 04/21/2006 5:36:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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To: jmc1969
To use a quote out of the Tommy Lee Jones' movie "The Fugitive"......."I don't negotiate...."


4 posted on 04/21/2006 5:37:30 PM PDT by stm (Our country and world are at a crossroads; taking the wrong path is not an option.)
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To: jmc1969

We negotiate from 30,000 feet at about 3 times the speed of sound Haji.


5 posted on 04/21/2006 5:37:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

There are problems with that when it comes to that area of the world.

1. We aren't allowed to bring the big guns and troops on mass into Pakistan where the real problem is.

2. The US has 17,000 men in a country the size of Germany, but Afghanistan has massive mountains unlike Germany and we had millions of troops in Germany after the war.

Basically, a low level insurgent war is going to go on for years no matter what we do.


6 posted on 04/21/2006 5:40:07 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: DoughtyOne
"Afghanistan is not like Germany and Japan."

He's right about that. In 1945 Germany and Japan hadn't been infected with the pollutant which is islam.

I do support negotiations however. I say we beging negotiations with 2,000 lb JDAMS, cluster munitions, thermobaric bombs, and SPECTRE gunship sweeps of taliban controlled areas. After a week of bombing, we 'negotiate' that every single Al Queda and Taliban member left alive is to assemble at a designated point.

If they refuse we 'begin negotiations' again.

L

7 posted on 04/21/2006 5:42:54 PM PDT by Lurker (Anyone who doesn't demand an immediate end to illegal immigration is aiding the flesh trade.)
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The more I think about this, the more I'm inclined to think we should be like the Romans; you don't adapt to our rules and our system, or we will CRUSH you. The damned media in this country is treasonous at best. If we don't change that, we are DOOMED, plain and simple.


8 posted on 04/21/2006 5:43:00 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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To: DoughtyOne

Total war like Michael Scheuer would like to see would work. But, it isn't going to happen unless we as a nation get some major balls. We can't even target Zawhiri in Pakistan with a hellfire without the media going into a tizzy.


9 posted on 04/21/2006 5:43:19 PM PDT by jmc1969
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Basically, a low level insurgent war is going to go on for years no matter what we do.

So we should negotiate with terrorists and cut the balls off of the Government in Afghanistan?

10 posted on 04/21/2006 5:44:34 PM PDT by rocksblues (Rummy fan here!)
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To: jmc1969

OK. You hajis put down your weapons, or I'll draw a cartoon of mohammad!


11 posted on 04/21/2006 5:45:11 PM PDT by rageaholic
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To: ExpatCanuck

There are three ways of dealing with your enemy. You either utterly destory them or you get a sizable portion of them to go over to your size, or both.

I see few signs that the US has the will to use total war in Afghanistan and Pakistan to do what needs to be done.


12 posted on 04/21/2006 5:47:03 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: rocksblues

It is exactly what we are doing in Iraq. Negotiating with the "enemy" that only cares about money and their material benifit and splitting them off from the hard core Saddamists and al-Qaeda.

If we were willing to practice total war we wouldn't have to negotiate with anyone.


13 posted on 04/21/2006 5:49:45 PM PDT by jmc1969
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Unfortunately the only thing that will bring America to the point where we're willing to engage in total war will be an attack that makes 9/11 look like childs play.

I would like to believe that the rest of the world would join us in the event of 10s or hundreds of thousands of American civilian deaths but I'm not counting on them.


14 posted on 04/21/2006 5:53:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: jmc1969; cripplecreek
If we were willing to practice total war we wouldn't have to negotiate with anyone.

Unfortunately the only thing that will bring America to the point where we're willing to engage in total war will be an attack that makes 9/11 look like childs play.

These two statements are so true.

We will continue to fight the nice war until 600,000 thousand or more are killed instantly and a 1,000,000 or more die due to the after effects.

Low estimates but you have to start some where.

And the world will not come to our defense!

15 posted on 04/21/2006 6:07:25 PM PDT by rocksblues (Rummy fan here!)
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To: Lurker

I like your plan.


16 posted on 04/21/2006 6:10:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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To: jmc1969

I know what you mean. We're in an interesting situation with all the terrorist sympathizers around.


17 posted on 04/21/2006 6:11:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The United 'Door Mats' of America! Go ahead, scrape your feet on it. Everyone else is.)
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To: jmc1969

Enemies - and Muslims most of all - only ask to negotiate when their backs are against the wall. A Muslim offer of negotiation is their last step before total defeat.


18 posted on 04/21/2006 6:12:39 PM PDT by thoughtomator (That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
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A Muslim offer of negotiation is their last step before total defeat.

Sounds like the most likely scenario here

19 posted on 04/21/2006 6:16:38 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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Creeeeeek. Thump thump, creeeekk. Ya Joe, somebody is down there I can hear something moving, cover me as I lift this stupid spider hole cover. OK. I'm going to shine my flash light down in the hole. Ahaaa... I hear some sounds... Yea, sounds like muffled foot steps. OK. F__cker! Who ever you are, come to the light with your frigen hands up.......Aha! OK now put your hands on your head as you climb out buddy.

Ahhhh imaricano soldiers aaaah. I am Saddam Hussien.... I am the president of Iraq, and I wish to negotiate.
End of story.
20 posted on 04/21/2006 6:48:18 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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