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Dump Cheney for Condi, Bush urged (London Times)
London Times ^ | 4/23/06 | Sarah Baxter

Posted on 04/22/2006 6:42:26 PM PDT by wagglebee

REPUBLICANS are urging President George W Bush to dump Dick Cheney as vice-president and replace him with Condoleezza Rice if he is serious about presenting a new face to the jaded American public.

They believe that only the sacrifice of one or more of the big beasts of the jungle, such as Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, will convince voters that Bush understands the need for a fresh start.

The jittery Republicans claim Bush’s mini-White House reshuffle last week will do nothing to forestall the threat of losing control of Congress in the November mid-term elections.

Fred Barnes of the Weekly Standard magazine and author of Rebel in Chief, a sympathetic new biography of Bush, said: “There are going to have to be sweeping personnel changes if people are going to take a second look at the Bush presidency.”

Barnes, who is close to the White House, said he believed Cheney would be willing to stand down in order to help Bush. “It’s unlike Bush to dump somebody whom he likes and respects,” he cautioned. “But the president needs to do something shocking and dramatic such as putting in Condoleezza Rice.”

Cheney appeared to have beeen caught napping during a visit to the Oval Office by China’s president, Hu Jintao, on Friday, although he claimed he had been looking down at his notes. It has often been said that he would cite medical reasons should he ever resign.

The best scenario, Barnes added, would be for Bush to announce that “Dick Cheney will be around as an outside adviser and I can call him on the phone, but I’d like to anoint somebody who I think will be the next leader of the United States”.

Tom Edmonds, a leading Republican consultant, said the White House had failed to grasp that the party was in desperate straits. “I have never talked to so many disenchanted Republicans,” he said. “The president even stonewalled the minor changes he made by talking about how he was really perfectly happy with his team. He didn’t even give himself wiggle room.”

One Republican strategist, who did not want to be named, said: “If I were Bush I would think of changing Cheney. It is one of the few substantial things he can do to change the complexion of his administration. The rest is nibbling around the edges.”

Bush’s new chief of staff, Joshua Bolten, quickly put his stamp on the inner workings of the White House last week by stripping Karl Rove, Bush’s most powerful adviser, of his policy-making role and ordering him to concentrate on his forte: winning elections.

Bolten also obtained the resignation of the White House spokesman, Scott McClellan, who was nicknamed Piggy in a recent Vanity Fair article because of his resemblance to the hapless victim of the feral boys in Lord of the Flies.

Tony Snow, a Fox News broadcaster who is favoured to replace McClellan, has previously described the Bush administration as “listless” and in dire need of change.

But a new communicator cannot reinvent an old team. Edmonds believes Rumsfeld should go. “The president is loyal to a fault,” he said. “His loyalty shouldn’t be to Rumsfeld but to the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. We need a new, strong face on the war, such as Senator John McCain or Joe Lieberman (the pro-war Democrat senator).”

Bob Schieffer, a CBS news television presenter, said Bush may yet drop Rumsfeld despite his strong declaration of support. “It was also this president who said, ‘Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job’ and that was just before Brownie got canned,” Schieffer said, referring to Michael Brown, who directed the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s much-criticised response to Hurricane Katrina.

John Snow, the Treasury secretary, has been left twisting in the wind while replacements for him are openly discussed, and Rob Portman has been brought in to replace Bolten as budget director. Suggestions that Harriet Miers, Bush’s White House counsel who was dropped as his supreme court nominee, would be next to go were denied last week.

Supporters say Bush should live up to his bold claim that he is “the decider” — made while rejecting recent calls for Rumsfeld’s resignation from half a dozen senior generals — and start firing senior people rather than backroom staff.

“If the Democrats win either the House of Representatives or the Senate it will be death and torment. It will be horrible for Bush,” said Barnes. A Democrat win could lead to moves to impeach Bush for leading the country to war on allegedly false pretences, or at the very least, to bog down the president’s legislative programme until he leaves office in 2008.

Rove has been privately warning party activists to expect some losses in the mid-term elections. One insider said: “I’ve heard him say at several party gatherings that the president wasn’t supposed to win in 2000, but he did. We’ve increased our margins of victory time and again. We can’t just keep winning on top of winning so we’re bound to slip back, but we’re still doing better than you would historically expect.”

Only one two-term victor has been more unpopular than Bush at a similar six-year stage in his presidency — Richard Nixon in the months before he was impeached.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; condirice; dickcheney; getacluealready; giveitup; ohplease; shutupalready; term2; vicepresident; yeahright
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I think the media believes that if they repeat something often enough it will come true.
1 posted on 04/22/2006 6:42:29 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

exactly..they dont report what is actually going on, but on what they wish was going on.


2 posted on 04/22/2006 6:43:43 PM PDT by georgia2006
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To: wagglebee

Sounds like horse manure to me.


3 posted on 04/22/2006 6:44:36 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: wagglebee

What pap! This article reads like Howard Dean's nocturnal emmisions!


4 posted on 04/22/2006 6:46:02 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Kerry-Mckinney in 2008!)
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To: wagglebee

I think the Brits should dump the Queen for Barbra Streisand. So there!


5 posted on 04/22/2006 6:46:31 PM PDT by Thom Pain (Supporting the Constitution is NOT right wing. It is centrist.)
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To: wagglebee

Personally, I like Cheney/Rice for 2008
I know, I know...Cheney says he's not running...


6 posted on 04/22/2006 6:47:26 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: wagglebee
Last week it was Rumsfeld. I guess this week it's Cheney. I wonder who it will be next week?
7 posted on 04/22/2006 6:47:40 PM PDT by manwiththehands ("'Rule of law'? We don't need no stinkin' rule of law! We want AMNESTY, muchacho!")
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"I think the media believes that if they repeat something often enough it will come true."
Well, it must be a deep-seated atavism, like the people re-counting money all the time: on subconscious level they believe that the more they handle it, the more will be there.
8 posted on 04/22/2006 6:49:20 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: manwiththehands

Next week? Rice of course, for her "failure" in iraq to get a government done.


9 posted on 04/22/2006 6:50:54 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: wagglebee; All

I don't care who knows it; I Love Dick. *Smirk* No, seriously, I think Mr. Cheney has done a fine job.

I mean, really. Look back through History at some of our VPs. Compare and contrast. Talk amongst yourselves. ;)


10 posted on 04/22/2006 6:52:52 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: wagglebee

these morons don't know that Pres. Bush can't dump Cheney ?


11 posted on 04/22/2006 6:58:26 PM PDT by stylin19a (I never put my foot in my mouth...I shoot that sucker off long before it gets anywhere near my mouth)
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“If I were Bush I would think of changing Cheney. It is one of the few substantial things he can do to change the complexion of his administration. The rest is nibbling around the edges.”

Incredibly stupid statement. Yeah, changing the VP will fix everything! Actually Cheney napping while listening to a commie makes me chuckle.

12 posted on 04/22/2006 6:59:10 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: wagglebee

John Kasich read this on his show tonight...and pretty much agreed will all of it...blech.

I do NOT understand why Fred Barnes is saying these things..sigh


13 posted on 04/22/2006 7:00:28 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: wagglebee
Tom Edmonds, a leading Republican consultant, said the White House had failed to grasp that the party was in desperate straits.

And the political hacks believe that if they repeat something often enough, it will matter.

"The party" is not the most important thing in the world. I hope President Bush will keep doing what he thinks is right, for the nation and for the world, and not be guided by the whinings of congresscritters and political hacks who fear for their jobs.

Frankly, getting bounced out of power might be just the wake-up call the Republican Party needs. If we're going to have out-of-control socialist spending on ever-expanding federal programs, it might as well be with Democrats at the helm -- less hypocrisy, at least. And an out-of-power Republican party is much more likely to get serious about attacking that evil, than an out-of-power Democrat party OR an in-power Republican party.

14 posted on 04/22/2006 7:02:05 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: wagglebee

pffft.


15 posted on 04/22/2006 7:04:03 PM PDT by kenth
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To: wagglebee

Rice as VP for Bush's third term? We could only wish.

Actually, I think they are on to something, a wholesale reshuffle at the top. Rice to VP, Cheney to State. Rumsfeld to CIA (we'll just fold CIA into the Defense Department, the few who can still pass a security clearance check).


16 posted on 04/22/2006 7:16:25 PM PDT by marron
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"The party" is not the most important thing in the world. I hope President Bush will keep doing what he thinks is right, for the nation and for the world, and not be guided by the whinings of congresscritters and political hacks who fear for their jobs.

Actually, you said it better than anyone.

17 posted on 04/22/2006 7:17:50 PM PDT by marron
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To: kellynla
Personally, I like Cheney/Rice for 2008

It works for me!!!

18 posted on 04/22/2006 7:18:28 PM PDT by maxter
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To: GovernmentShrinker

If the Democrats promised to make Bush stay a conservative and make our Republican congressmen stop being a bunch of corrupt big spenders, I'd vote for them. But the only thing they care about is impeaching him and that sort of crap.


19 posted on 04/22/2006 7:18:50 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: wagglebee

I have no problems with Dick Cheney, none whatsoever. Any "jadedness" that I've acquired has occurred in the past year, and centers upon our president and the choices he's made.

That said, Condoleeza Rice would not displease me as vice president. I just wouldn't want to see Cheney booted for that purpose.

I really think the London Times is talking out their, ahem, nether regions on this, though.


20 posted on 04/22/2006 7:20:00 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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