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To: P-Marlowe
Thank you Hillary.

LOL!!! You're the one acting like Hillary. I say to save for retirement and take care of yourself. You mock that. Hillary indeed!!! Why do you believe that one should not save to take care of themselves? Is govt. your answer to all of life's issues? I thought I was on FR yet I get responses right out of DU!!!

43 posted on 04/23/2006 8:33:01 AM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
You're the one acting like Hillary.

When Hillary was confronted with a question about her health care plan bankrupting a lot of small businesses her response was "I am not responsible for the undercapitalization of small businesses."

Your attitude is exactly the same as hers. You have no idea why this guy at 59 may not have enough money to retire. I suspect that having his paycheck robbed to pay for government social programs over the last 40 years may have something to do with it.

51 posted on 04/23/2006 8:38:03 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

Not to worry, the grasshoppers always bad mouth the ants and think that the ants should give it up for the good of the "community". It's the second half of the grasshopper signature.


119 posted on 04/23/2006 9:28:03 AM PDT by Proud_texan ("Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." - Barry Goldwater)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
IMHO, it's laudable to bear one's own burden. Even with that point of view and actionable experience, events in our lives might not be so favorable for all people in society.

On the contrary, there is nothing in Scripture promising a perfect physical environment prior to the second coming. One popular misconception is to think that if one works hard at improving his environment, one's future is secure in retirement and old age. A far more valuable lifelong goal is to remain in fellowship with God through faith in Christ in all things.

It is interesting to note that every time Satan suffers a fall in Scripture, he is first surrounded by perfect environment, yet even when Christ Himself didn't have a place to lay his head to sleep, He nevertheless was provided with His needs by the Father.

One study in predestination regards the doctrine of logistical grace. Another study concerns providential testing and momentum testing of our faith in Him.

Consider what Christ endured physically and thoughtfully on His way to the Cross. God has predestined a plan for each of our lives in eternity past. By remaining faithful to Him, we are able to be at the right place at the right time to fulfill His providential grace. When we fail and sin or disobey His will, we simply leave rewards on the table in heaven as eternal memorials of our stupidity in sin.

It might be the case that those who only live for the moment, harvest the whirlwind of their foolish decisions prior to the first death. Also possible are many situations where our fellow man might be in need, due to no fault of his own, but merely an opportunity or testing of how we have advanced in our thinking to respond to any situation in life. The issues of sin have already been settled through faith in Christ. Issues of good and evil in the angelic conflict are still being evaluated and our response to them through faith in Him provides opportunity for receipt of those predestined awards in heaven.

I've witnessed those who he loves, with substantial resources and more capacity for worldly growth, lose everything of this world, yet still are without want living in joy from His providence.

I've also witnessed those who reject him, heap treasures for their retirement, living very miserable lives in luxury where every fleshly and worldly desire has been made available.

Lazarus and the Rich man is an outstanding example of joy and misery in such predicaments.
231 posted on 04/23/2006 11:28:28 AM PDT by Cvengr
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