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Dump Cheney for Condi, Bush urged
Times Online ^ | 04.23.06

Posted on 04/23/2006 9:18:06 AM PDT by Dr. Marten

REPUBLICANS are urging President George W Bush to dump Dick Cheney as vice-president and replace him with Condoleezza Rice if he is serious about presenting a new face to the jaded American public.

They believe that only the sacrifice of one or more of the big beasts of the jungle, such as Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, will convince voters that Bush understands the need for a fresh start.

The jittery Republicans claim Bush’s mini-White House reshuffle last week will do nothing to forestall the threat of losing control of Congress in the November mid-term elections.

Fred Barnes of the Weekly Standard magazine and author of Rebel in Chief, a sympathetic new biography of Bush, said: “There are going to have to be sweeping personnel changes if people are going to take a second look at the Bush presidency.”

Barnes, who is close to the White House, said he believed Cheney would be willing to stand down in order to help Bush. “It’s unlike Bush to dump somebody whom he likes and respects,” he cautioned. “But the president needs to do something shocking and dramatic such as putting in Condoleezza Rice.”

Cheney appeared to have beeen caught napping during a visit to the Oval Office by China’s president, Hu Jintao, on Friday, although he claimed he had been looking down at his notes. It has often been said that he would cite medical reasons should he ever resign.

The best scenario, Barnes added, would be for Bush to announce that “Dick Cheney will be around as an outside adviser and I can call him on the phone, but I’d like to anoint somebody who I think will be the next leader of the United States”.

Tom Edmonds, a leading Republican consultant, said the White House had failed to grasp that the party was in desperate straits. “I have never talked to so many disenchanted Republicans,” he said. “The president even stonewalled the minor changes he made by talking about how he was really perfectly happy with his team. He didn’t even give himself wiggle room.”

One Republican strategist, who did not want to be named, said: “If I were Bush I would think of changing Cheney. It is one of the few substantial things he can do to change the complexion of his administration. The rest is nibbling around the edges.”

Bush’s new chief of staff, Joshua Bolten, quickly put his stamp on the inner workings of the White House last week by stripping Karl Rove, Bush’s most powerful adviser, of his policy-making role and ordering him to concentrate on his forte: winning elections.

Bolten also obtained the resignation of the White House spokesman, Scott McClellan, who was nicknamed Piggy in a recent Vanity Fair article because of his resemblance to the hapless victim of the feral boys in Lord of the Flies.

Tony Snow, a Fox News broadcaster who is favoured to replace McClellan, has previously described the Bush administration as “listless” and in dire need of change.

But a new communicator cannot reinvent an old team. Edmonds believes Rumsfeld should go. “The president is loyal to a fault,” he said. “His loyalty shouldn’t be to Rumsfeld but to the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. We need a new, strong face on the war, such as Senator John McCain or Joe Lieberman (the pro-war Democrat senator).”

Bob Schieffer, a CBS news television presenter, said Bush may yet drop Rumsfeld despite his strong declaration of support. “It was also this president who said, ‘Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job’ and that was just before Brownie got canned,” Schieffer said, referring to Michael Brown, who directed the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s much-criticised response to Hurricane Katrina.

John Snow, the Treasury secretary, has been left twisting in the wind while replacements for him are openly discussed, and Rob Portman has been brought in to replace Bolten as budget director. Suggestions that Harriet Miers, Bush’s White House counsel who was dropped as his supreme court nominee, would be next to go were denied last week.

Supporters say Bush should live up to his bold claim that he is “the decider” — made while rejecting recent calls for Rumsfeld’s resignation from half a dozen senior generals — and start firing senior people rather than backroom staff.

“If the Democrats win either the House of Representatives or the Senate it will be death and torment. It will be horrible for Bush,” said Barnes. A Democrat win could lead to moves to impeach Bush for leading the country to war on allegedly false pretences, or at the very least, to bog down the president’s legislative programme until he leaves office in 2008.

Rove has been privately warning party activists to expect some losses in the mid-term elections. One insider said: “I’ve heard him say at several party gatherings that the president wasn’t supposed to win in 2000, but he did. We’ve increased our margins of victory time and again. We can’t just keep winning on top of winning so we’re bound to slip back, but we’re still doing better than you would historically expect.”

Only one two-term victor has been more unpopular than Bush at a similar six-year stage in his presidency — Richard Nixon in the months before he was impeached.

 


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1 posted on 04/23/2006 9:18:10 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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Richard Nixon in the months before he was impeached.

Richard Nixon was impeached? I guess I missed that one....

2 posted on 04/23/2006 9:22:09 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: clintonh8r

It's in Times "book of what we wish was true but we'll keep saying it anyway".


3 posted on 04/23/2006 9:23:21 AM PDT by Fledermaus (The Bush administration and the GOP Congress have proven to be totally incompetent.)
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To: Dr. Marten
Cheney appeared to have beeen caught napping...

So have Bill and Hillary and Justice Ginsburg. And the writer's point is what exactly?

4 posted on 04/23/2006 9:27:40 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Fledermaus
The vice president is an elected official of the USA. It is not like firing a cabinet member. These liberals never cease to amaze me.This is more wishful thinking by the MSM. Chaney can resign but he cannot be fired.
5 posted on 04/23/2006 9:28:21 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Fledermaus
The vice president is an elected official of the USA. It is not like firing a cabinet member. These liberals never cease to amaze me.This is more wishful thinking by the MSM. Chaney can resign but he cannot be fired.
6 posted on 04/23/2006 9:28:23 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Dr. Marten
So the candy-ass GOPers in the House and Senate want the president to dump his key players because they can't get re-elected on their own merits, and they think dumping Rummy or Big Dick will mean more votes for them? Yeah...that's a strategy to go with.
7 posted on 04/23/2006 9:28:33 AM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: clintonh8r

I missed it, too!


8 posted on 04/23/2006 9:30:05 AM PDT by MEG33 ( GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Dr. Marten

What Republicans? Name some sources or consider this a fabrication. Cheney is the best VP we have had and selecing Condi for successor would be a major mistake. It will never happen under Bush anyway. This is a PravdABDNC hoax.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


9 posted on 04/23/2006 9:32:04 AM PDT by bray (Racists for Rice '08)
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To: Dr. Marten

The author claims to be a Democrat who "voted for Bush". Yeah, right.


10 posted on 04/23/2006 9:35:09 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: Dr. Marten

That would look manipulative and phony.


11 posted on 04/23/2006 9:35:26 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: Uncle Hal

The get Cheney scheme is part of a get Bush scheme. Right now, if Bush were impeached and resigned, chosing not to fight, the libs would be stuck with Cheney, a significant deterrent to moving aginst Bush.

They had the same problem at the time of Wategate, since they'd have gotten Agnew if they just removed Nixon; hence, they had to get Agnew before they could get Nixon. They got Agnew, because Agnew was a tax evader, then the way was cleared for them to go on to get Nixon. Cheney is Bush's last and most important shield against impeachment.



12 posted on 04/23/2006 9:37:08 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Bush should resign and let Cheney take over ,put Condi as Vp


13 posted on 04/23/2006 9:38:46 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Dr. Marten
Dump Cheney for Rice? And how long till we hear that we should dump Rice for someone else?

I want Republicans to do a better job of sticking together. They try to appease the left but I don't see that it does any good. I'm not convinced the party benefited from dumping (lack of support for) Gingrich or DeLay. They lost two good men, discouraged the base, and encouraged the worst elements in the Democratic party.

And the Republican party should also do a better job of reaching out to conservatives. I think too many conservatives stay home on election day. That only benefits the left.
14 posted on 04/23/2006 9:42:37 AM PDT by ChessExpert (The Democratic Party - a Marxist front organization)
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To: ballplayer

No way. That would just encourage a DemonRat feeding frenzy.


15 posted on 04/23/2006 9:51:31 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Dr. Marten

Dump the times. Keep the administration.


16 posted on 04/23/2006 9:56:42 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Dr. Marten

What the Times is proposing is a replay of a plan that worked for the democrat party once before.

The democrats wanted Nixon out of office. However, there was one tremendous obstacle.

They did NOT want Spiro T. Agnew as President.

They clearly understood that they could not get the votes - even from their own party members - to force Nixon out of office, nor impeach him if the alternative was going to be Vice President Agnew.

So, they began developing the Agnew scandal and prosecution, and succeded in forcing him from office so that they could turn their attention to President Nixon.

They worked to get the non-charismatic Gerald Ford named Vice President - then proceeded to portray him as an honest, but goofy, awkward, stumbling, falling, slow - thinking dumbass. (But they wouldn't mind him being President for a brief period).

Then they opened fire on Nixon with all guns blazing: TV, magazines, party leaders, the press....and ran him out of office.

Vice President Cheney is an obstacle to impeaching President Bush. The left would have difficulty getting the votes if they thought Dick Cheney would become the President.

So, the work has begun to remove Cheney. (And you can bet they would not allow someone as dynamic as Rice become VP.)

...But, as you look around and watch the long knives at work, you can see (and pardon me for using this phrase) a "vast left-wing conspiracy" with powerful, rich, influential individuals directing things from the shadows...and we've only just begun.


17 posted on 04/23/2006 10:02:33 AM PDT by Rhetorical pi2
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To: libstripper

My apologies to libstripper who posted remarks saying the same thing I was saying - but doing it more succinctly than I did and doing it while I was typing.

I have difficulty being brief. :o)


18 posted on 04/23/2006 10:07:51 AM PDT by Rhetorical pi2
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To: Dr. Marten

Fake Republicans maybe, but all good conservative Republicans know that Rumsfeld is the BEST we have had in ages!!


19 posted on 04/23/2006 10:10:24 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Dr. Marten

uh...make that Cheney.


20 posted on 04/23/2006 10:11:21 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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