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Warning: Euro may be terminal
Big News Network ^ | April 24, 2006

Posted on 4/25/2006, 4:24:32 AM by RWR8189

Another respected European economist is warning of the euro's collapse unless there is progress towards political union.

Paul de Grauwe of Belgium's Catholic University in Leuven is warning the euro is bound to collapse in 10 to 20 years because there is no clear movement toward political union in Europe, the EU Observer reported Monday.

Last week a new member of the European Central Bank's board, the German Bundesbank's vice president, made a similar point.

I am concerned about these trends because monetary union ... needs a common political foundation and a political commitment to function smoothly, said Jurgen Stark.

The 12 European nations using the euro have a 2 percent average increase in their gross domestic product and unemployment that is close to 10 percent, or more.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: currency; eu; euro
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1 posted on 4/25/2006, 4:24:33 AM by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

It would take a big event to scare them all into line...

Global shakeup in the dominate world powers....

imo


2 posted on 4/25/2006, 4:30:26 AM by joesnuffy
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To: RWR8189
I'm thinking they have a MUCH bigger problem than the continued existence of the Euro - such as the continued existence of representative democracies in Europe.

"Where do you want the deck chairs, Captaine de Grauwe?"
3 posted on 4/25/2006, 4:30:27 AM by decal (My name is "decal" and I approve this tagline)
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To: RWR8189
They have a bigger problem than the damm Euro. Can anyone spell I-S-L-A-M?



4 posted on 4/25/2006, 4:35:50 AM by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: decal; RWR8189

<< I'm thinking they have a MUCH bigger problem than the continued existence of the Euro - such as the continued existence of representative democracies in Europe.

"Where do you want the deck chairs, Captaine de Grauwe?" >>

Well said.


5 posted on 4/25/2006, 4:43:11 AM by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: RWR8189
Another respected European economist is warning of the euro's collapse unless there is progress towards political union.

I gave it a 50/50 chance 5 years ago. Too optimistic?

6 posted on 4/25/2006, 4:43:30 AM by demlosers
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To: RWR8189

bttt


7 posted on 4/25/2006, 4:44:48 AM by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: RWR8189
1 EUR = 1.23780 USD

1 USD = 0.807883 EUR

Wasn't it the other way around a while back?

Come to think of it...

1 CAD = 0.879806 USD

1 USD = 1.13661 CAD

What? Wasn't the loonie usually worth less than 75 cents?

8 posted on 4/25/2006, 5:10:45 AM by Dick Holmes
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The Euro is overvalued. When they went from DM to Euros, they laid what amounted to a surtax on everyone in Germany. In the seven years since I last lived in Germany, growth in the former West Germany is not very visible.


9 posted on 4/25/2006, 5:16:50 AM by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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The 12 European nations using the euro have a 2 percent average increase in their gross domestic product and unemployment that is close to 10 percent, or more."

Yikes, that is terrible.

So if the Euro collapses, its a GOOD thing, then, right?!?


10 posted on 4/25/2006, 5:33:38 AM by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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" In the seven years since I last lived in Germany, growth in the former West Germany is not very visible."

I understand the Potsdamer Platz in Berlin is pretty built up now, but I guess half of it was in East Germany.

You're right, Germany is stagnating. I really admire some of their society, particularly the autobahn and the way they are taught to drive properly so it works without speed limits. But they have too many taxes, perks, rules and red tape, and suffer high unemployment.

Of course, if the USA in a fit of national pride decided to annex Mexico (poor analogy, I know) and give its citizens a dollar for every peso, we might be in worse shape economically than West Germany is now, after annexing the second-world economy of the DDR.

11 posted on 4/25/2006, 5:38:45 AM by Dick Holmes
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To: Dick Holmes

bttt


12 posted on 4/25/2006, 5:40:32 AM by nopardons
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To: RWR8189

Someone forgot the extra "PE" after the word euro.


13 posted on 4/25/2006, 5:41:36 AM by Captainpaintball (History is not written by those who win wars, but by those who win the war for the History Dept.)
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To: Dick Holmes
Not really. Can$ got hammered in the 1990s, but for most of the time forex has traded, Can$ was above 83 cents. For a time in the 1960s, Can$ traded over parity to USD.

EUR/USD low of 82.xx occurred in (iirc) October 2000.

You can look up the complete histories of these currencies in the futures mkts at Time & Timing. Take the free 30-day trial, very short signup, then use 'The Big Enchilada', which is that site's term for Universal Histories. Site's a cinch to use; kind of like a stock screen, but for futures.

14 posted on 4/25/2006, 5:42:50 AM by SAJ
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The difference is that the Mexicans are, pound for pound, much harder workers than the Ossies, who have the work ethic of our inner city poor. The irony is that Wessies also despise the Poles and the (German) Russians, because they work too hard for too little pay and have too many kids.


15 posted on 4/25/2006, 5:44:35 AM by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Dick Holmes
"What? Wasn't the loonie usually worth less than 75 cents?"

No...When the Euro came out, it was within a few cents of the dollar.
In early 2002, it got as low as about 85 cents, but by end of the year it moved ahead of the dollar and never looked back.
As of today, It takes $1.24 to buy a Euro.
When I first visited Slovakia, $1 would get me almost 50
Slovak crowns. Now I get only 30.
16 posted on 4/25/2006, 5:52:12 AM by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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Did you feel cheated, or were you getting your moneys worth is Slovakia?


17 posted on 4/25/2006, 5:55:52 AM by TheLion
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"When they went from DM to Euros, they laid what amounted to a surtax on everyone in Germany."

The same was true about the Dutch Guilder --- which was undervalued by about 20%. The current government finally admitted that this was true several months ago (it was, of course, a previous government that was in power at the time). This hidden surtax was needed to bring in the weaker currencies.


18 posted on 4/25/2006, 6:09:00 AM by Cap Huff
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"were you getting your moneys worth is Slovakia?"


Well, I still do OK here. A large beer (.5 ltr) is about $1
in a bar or restaurant. 2 dcl of wine is as little as 75 cents.
The average income for Slovaks is between $500 and $1000
per month.
It was much nicer when I was able to get 45 or more crowns for a dollar.
Prices here are going up, and will be even worse when Slovakia goes on the Euro in next few years.
19 posted on 4/25/2006, 6:13:27 AM by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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Looks like you do quite well there. I pay $4 for a 16 oz beer in my local bar....unless it is happy hour.


20 posted on 4/25/2006, 6:17:07 AM by TheLion
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