Posted on 04/25/2006 6:25:47 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
Atotonilco, Mexico - They name their babies Johnny and Leslie, so certain are they that their kids' future lies in the United States. Returning migrants sprinkle English into their speech as they talk knowingly about job markets in U.S. towns.
The U.S. may want to stop illegal immigration, but most Mexicans accept it as a fact of life they can't imagine changing.
Mexico's economy, society and political system are built on the assumption that migration and amnesties will continue - and that the $20 billion that undocumented workers send home every year will keep coming, and almost certainly grow.
In fact, the government is counting on continued cash from a Mexican-born U.S. population it predicts will rise from 11 million to between 17.9 million and 20.4 million by 2030.
"There have been amnesties and reforms before, and they will continue to occur periodically," said Jesus Cervantes, director of statistics for Mexico's Central Bank.
President Vicente Fox is one of many Mexicans who considers the migrants "heroes" because they send money to their impoverished home villages and in some cases risk death walking into the U.S.
Many families give their babies "American" names, figuring it will help them fit in when they make the trip north. In one central Mexican village, men on a dusty side road knowingly discuss which Long Island towns are best for day-labor work.
Cervantes avoids using the common metaphor of migration as an escape valve for Mexico's social tensions but says the country of 105 million people would be in trouble if 11 million migrants returned en masse.
On the ground, the lure of the U.S. is evident. Abelardo Gonzalez, an elementary school director in the southern state of Oaxaca, said of his students: "From the time they are little kids, they have this idea of going north." So many people have left the farming town of Atotonilco in central Tlaxcala state, 480 miles from the U.S. border, that a sort of U.S. job-placement network has grown up. Migrants send word home of a vacancy for a gardener in Los Angeles, a carpenter in Houston or a dishwasher in Raleigh, N.C.
A proposal in the Mexican Senate last year that would have kept migrants away from particularly dangerous border crossings when temperatures soared was denounced as doing the United States' "dirty work." It was withdrawn.
Agustin Escobar, an immigration scholar at Mexico's Center for Research on Social Anthropology, is a maverick. He questions whether migration is good for Mexico, given that a migrant puts less money into the economy than a Mexican who stays.
But he doesn't get much of a hearing. "There is a great deal of resistance on the part of the government to even consider analysis of these issues," he said.
"Mexico can't imagine closed border"
Why should they when not only are they permitted to steal from Americans, they are encouraged to do so by our elected officials.
Apparently, they haven't seen their southern border.
Unfortunately, neither can our President.
'Imagine there's a border,
it's easy if you try,
no America to run to,
you have to stay and fight.
Imagine there's a fe--nce
Big and wide and hi -----gggh,
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm ... (doobi doobi doo)
xxxx
And the world can live as TWO.
If they know they are going to dump their lower class into the US, why don't they teach the kids English in the schools? Because it's against Mexican law, that's why. The Japanese children and the Russian children learn English at their schools, but the terminally stubborn Mexicans don't allow it. Children from the USA who go to Mexican schools are expected to learn Spanish from day 1, and there are NO bilingual classes, as our assinine government requires taxpayers to pay for here in the good old USA.
LOL!
They are encouraged by their government, and ours, and businesses here. I can't say I'm surprised at all.
That really frosts me too.
My ancestors came here and had to learn English - were happy to.
"Mexico's economy, society and political system are built on the assumption that migration and amnesties will continue"
That's a safe bet if I ever saw one. Because judging by recent polls there are a lot of "Americans" who are nothing more than consumers. They will have a heart attack if they have to pay a quarter more for a gallon of gas, but they won't give a damn if their country is overrun by Mexicans.
Maybe they should change the name of this country to the "United States Free Trade and Migration Zone" and get it over with. Come one, come all- you can be an American too. Just break our laws and wait for the next amnesty. And don't forget to vote Democratic.
Makes me want to throw up.
Mexico has become a tumor in the side of America.
Corrupt and racist leaders like Fox make sure the villages of the dark skinned, and indigenous stay impoverished. The ones that can't be coerced into jumping the border are coerced into being sterilized.
Hey, watch what you say, this is our presidents best friend.
Why should they when not only are they permitted to steal from Americans, they are encouraged to do so by our elected officials.
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Exactly. When you have a President and Congress that not only give them carte blanche, but are working hard to reward their criminality, why not take advantage of it??
Russians have a saying about English: they say it's the easiest language there is to learn to speak badly, by which they mean that if all you NEED is to speak it badly, or well enough to get by in an English-speaking country, that can be done in a couple of months.
I'm starting to get seriously pissed at this constant "Choose a Language: English/Spanish" thing at banks, grocery stores and everything I do which involves ATM machines. Has anybody on FR considered the possibility of organizing a boycott of stores which do that?
Mexicans are truly fortunate to have a shepherd like this pile.
Instead of making the southwest Aztlan, Americans should re-enact the accomplishments of Winfield Scott and annex Mexico.
The ISthmus of Tehuantipec is more defensible than the present southern border and Mexico has lots of oil - besides he Mexicans are hard workers - or so the libs keep telling us.
People should stop calling them immigrants because most of them have no intention of becoming Americans. They should be called migrants or even invaders since they are not invited here (guest workers, my eye). We don't need more low-skilled workers in this country, we got enough homegrown thanks to our public education (so called) system.
Tehy are hurting two countries by their actions.
We should place a heavy, burdensome tax on money being sent out of country by noncitizens (at least to all money sent to Mexico.) We can sell this as something to get more tax dollars for the government, but it will also create a disincentive to more illegal immigration and likely cause some illegals to go home.
I think it's all about the oil Mexico has, that we get.
Encourage your friends to use the option of talking with a live person instead of using the "menu of options "when using the phone.
Don't know what to do with ATMs.
I wonder how many white or black working age men we have in this country who either didn't graduate from high school or only have a high school degree who become drunks or drug addicts because they are taught that nothing is their fault?
Mexican come here and work, are unskilled and uneducated but get jobs based on being Mexican. I know a man who hired two illegals, both hard drinkers with many outside problems, but nice guys and they showed up for work. They got deported and my friend vowed to never hire another. He has 5 or 6 white guys now who are uneducated and have many outside problems. They do the job and once my friend puts the same time into them to train as he did his illegals they will be just lower middle class white guys who do manual labor.
Yesterday I saw a crew of white guys mowing a lawn in a nice neighborhood. I thought it was weird because you almost never see it. Obviously someone wised up.
"Mexico's economy, society and political system are built on the assumption that migration and amnesties will continue - and that the $20 billion that undocumented workers send home every year will keep coming, and almost certainly grow."
That's the problem!!!!
Then maybe it's time to implement the "Oil for Illegals" program -- for every illegal tehy send us, they also have to send us one barrel of oil.
My answer to any of our own pols who think we actually need "guest workers" would be to say:
Fine, but let's fix it so that WE control our immigration policies as opposed to having Mexico control them. Let's seal the border with Mexico and establish some sort of a point of departure for guest workers at Guantanimo, and give EVERYBODY in south/central America an equal shot at it. Ferry the people to Guantanimo and then to the US and keep track of them. You might even want to put radio collars on them the way they do seals.
The current alien invasion from the south serves BOTH the elites who run Mexico and the political ruling class who increasingly run the United States:
· It takes pressure off the 25 families who control approximately 80% of the wealth in Mexico. Without the northern “safety valve” (the United States) for their poor, those poor MIGHT be inclined to do what America’s early colonists found it necessary to do: Revolt! Parenthetically, that would be MY suggestion for them: Instead of fleeing here – and converting “here” to a larger, more poverty infested version of “there,” they ought to stay there and make “there” into their version of “here,” whatever that would be. Revolutions ARE messy and there are no guarantees that they will produce the desired result. But – according to one T. Jefferson – they are often necessary. Never forget that THIS country was born in revolution!
· For the NAFTA/CAFTA coveting US national ruling class – especially those who, in varying degrees, quest after some sort of One-World utopia run by guess who? – it provides yet another level of insecurity and tension among the indigenous populace which can be used to justify new and more draconian limits to freedom here. Instead of securing the borders, allow millions of illegals to come in and when the natives become alarmed, require a national ID card. “Your papers, please!” will soon become a phrase familiar to all. It’s Mr. Franklin’s trade of freedom for (false) security. It’s also the time-tested Hegelian Dialectic the One-Worlders have successfully worked like a rented mule.
While they occasionally squabble among themselves, the elites of history have ALL had one thing in common: They will do ANYTHING to remain in charge. And throughout that history, except for the 230 year-old experiment in freedom called “America,” most of the men who have walked the earth have lived as slaves to these elites whether they call themselves kings, emperors, potentates, sultans, czars – or presidents.
Get ready, folks. Unless some SERIOUS changes are made and the handful of Americans who CARE about liberty get involved, that history will almost certainly repeat here.
I know what you mean!
The number of barrels of oil should reflect all costs of: apprehension, feeding & storage, medical costs, shipping & handling. It would probably be several barrels.
Like a blockade, an invasion is an act of war.
Our president may not recognize it, but as far as I'm concerned a state of war exists between us and our hostile southern neighbor.
Every time I learn something about Mexican law, I think I've heard it all - then something else comes up . . .
Oil for illegals -- are you running for office? Let me know so I can vote for you. THAT is a great idea, a great slogan, and it makes so much sense.
Sure they can. They do it with their southern border all the time.
Just like American liberals. We know these villages as the inner city or the ghetto.
The worst thing is how our government enforces every jot and tittle of every stupid regulation and fee against us, while they enforce nothing against these illegal occupiers.
YOU try working without paying all the taxes and fees. YOU try moving a freaking snail darter nest on YOUR land.
THAT'S disgusting.
Yes.
Did you know that 29 percent of our prison population is illegals?
You can add the return of bedbugs to that list.
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