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Myth vs. Fact: (You cannot deport 12 million people) Oh Yes You Can!
The New American ^ | May 1, 2006 | Thomas R. Eddlem

Posted on 04/25/2006 10:57:43 AM PDT by underwiredsupport

 

Myth vs. Fact
by Thomas R. Eddlem
May 1, 2006

http://www.thenewamerican.com/artman/publish/printer_3745.shtml

Politicians and pundits are defending illegal immigration with worn-out myths that can easily be proven wrong.

Myth: Illegal immigrants contribute greatly to the American economy.

Fact: So-called statistics supporting this myth are typically a deceptive amalgam of statistics and supposition arranged to conceal an undeniable truth. Consider, for instance, this statement from the ACLU paper Immigrants and the Economy (2002): "Immigrants pay more than $90 billion in taxes every year and receive only $5 billion in welfare. Without their contributions to the public treasury, the economy would suffer enormous losses." If 32.5 million immigrants (the total of legal and illegal immigrants, according to the recent U.S. Census figures) really pay $90 billion in taxes, then they pay half the taxes the average native-born American pays. Note too that the ACLU combines both legal and illegal immigrants into its statistic. Most taxes paid by immigrants are paid by legal immigrants. Illegal immigrants often pay little or no taxes because many of them are working "under the table" in the underground, cash-based economy.

Welfare is a term limited to only a few federal subsidy programs, and the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) notes: "Even though illegal aliens make little use of welfare, from which they are generally barred, the costs of illegal immigration in terms of government expenditures for education, criminal justice, and emergency medical care are significant." CIS estimates that the total net cost of illegal immigration is an annual drain on the government of $11-22 billion annually.

Myth: We are a nation of immigrants.

Fact: This myth is false on its face. Nearly 88 percent of the people living in the United States today are not immigrants; they were born here. This is a nation of natives, not a nation of immigrants. "But," the liberal propagandists reply, "we all have ancestors who come from other countries." And, one might reply, so does just about every other nation on Earth.

Are not the French merely descendents of the immigrant barbarian Franks, who drove out the Roman era Celtic Gauls? And the English are simply immigrant Angles and Saxons who virtually wiped out the Celtic Britons in the fifth century A.D. They too are simply nations of immigrants under this liberal myth, as is practically every other nation on Earth. The myth descends to meaninglessness upon any serious analysis. Yet whenever this myth is uttered, we are expected to nod our heads in agreement that a deep and salient point has been made.

Myth: You cannot deport 12 million people.

Fact: This is nothing more than a slogan for people who have stopped trying to address the problem. The U.S. government needs to begin deporting illegal aliens, and even if it only deports a fraction of them over the next few years that would be progress. If the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency deported only two million of the 12 million illegal aliens, 10 million illegals would be better than 12 million.

Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) notes that enforcing employer sanctions could lead many to go home on their own without deportation proceedings: "If you can't get a job in this country, and if you can't get social service benefits, you go home." Additionally, a lot of immigrants visit families on their own, and wouldn't be able to get back in if Congress decides to secure the border.

On the other hand, if the 12 million illegals are legalized, none would be deported. Moreover, this amnesty (whether called amnesty or not) would simply induce more illegals to cross the Rio Grande in the hopes of waiting until the next amnesty.

Myth: Illegal immigrants are only taking jobs Americans do not want.

Fact: Many illegal immigrants are able to work for less than market value because they don't pay income or Social Security taxes and are able to take their entire paycheck (or cash) home. This is not only unfair competition against employers who follow the law and pay employees "above the table," but it depresses the wage scale for Americans who would otherwise select jobs currently filled by illegal immigrants. These are jobs that Americans "do not want" only because the illegal immigrants have depressed the wage scale for the positions. Take away the illegal immigrants, and the market would raise wages to the level where Americans would take the jobs.

Myth: Guest workers would only be here temporarily.

Fact: History demonstrates that "guest workers" would be as temporary as the "temporary" telephone tax, still in effect, that Congress enacted in 1898 to pay for the Spanish-American War. And what would happen if 12 million "guest workers" decided not to leave? Those who argue against deporting the current 12 million illegal aliens as impractical are likely, if challenged, to say they find the prospect of deporting "guest workers" impractical as well.

Thus, it is hardly surprising that President Bush fails to mention a time limit on the "temporary" worker visas the federal government would permit under the "guest worker" program he is pushing in his public addresses. Most pending congressional legislation would limit the "guest worker" to three years — but what then?

Myth: Illegal immigrants have a right to come here. It is our Christian duty to provide hospitality.

Fact: Nearly two-thirds of the 32.5 million foreign-born people living in the United States entered this country legally, and the United States has more legal immigrants than any other country in the world. That's hardly poor hospitality, and no bill before Congress that has a chance of becoming law would change this nation's hospitality. But it is poor hospitality to say to the nearly 22 million legal U.S. immigrants who waited in line that they wasted their time following the rules because illegal immigrants will now get the same status.

The need to deport illegal aliens and secure our borders has nothing to do with persecuting minorities or lack of hospitality. The United States can continue to allow a large or small number of immigrants into this country legally, depending upon how many can be reasonably assimilated without destroying our American identity. Rather, securing our borders is necessary as a matter of principle — in the interests of equal justice under law — as well as practical security in this age of international terrorism. And this nation can no longer afford to allow "myth-information" slogans to sidetrack the nation from fulfilling the mandate of controlling the borders.
 


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderlist; deportationpossible; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; minutemen
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To: Dane
Is it because of their "social conservatism" that illegal aliens are so overrepresented in the prison population?
141 posted on 04/25/2006 1:25:28 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Dane
. . . family oriented and socially conservative people immigrating to the US.

You haven't been keeping up to Mexican protest movements, have you? Who cares if they are " family oriented and socially conservative", they want to take a good part of the US and make it like the hellhole they escaped from.

Are you in this country legally?

142 posted on 04/25/2006 1:27:31 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Dane
That's right, Hitler's name lives in infamy because of all the Jews he "deported".

By the way, I can't tell you how glad I am that you're not on my side in any of the debates on FR.

143 posted on 04/25/2006 1:28:03 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

In other words, the guest worker program worked.


144 posted on 04/25/2006 1:29:38 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"We don't need 12 million deportations, we need a few thousand employers in jail and the illegal will first stop coming, and eventually will have no choice but to go home." Let's not limit how many employers. Every one of them should face jail, and every single one of them should be fined at least how much they have saved by hiring illegal immigrants. Better yet, fine them twice the amount or more. Business understands profits even when they do not understand, or ignore the law.
145 posted on 04/25/2006 1:29:48 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: StarFan
No, I am not buying into anything Reid says, BUT I do believe that President Bush is complicit, in the fact he has stated over and over he wants amensty(under a guest worker name) and he favors open borders. This makes it his fault. He can push congress to not pass any bill and he does have the power to force our federal agencies to enforce the law.

We don't need new laws, we need to enforce the ones that are now on the books and he refuses to do so.

This makes it HIS fault, as well as the fault of congress who should be holding his feet to the fire and demanding he enforce our laws!

146 posted on 04/25/2006 1:30:18 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: Dane
Well, duh. Practically 100% of the Dutch people who come here do so LEGALLY.
147 posted on 04/25/2006 1:30:45 PM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: William Terrell
"I think we should rethink our policy on Cubans."

I think that your using the word "we" is indicative of some issues within your psychological make up.

148 posted on 04/25/2006 1:31:12 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: underwiredsupport

Don't try to confuse them with facts. Their mind is made up and we simply cannot deport all of the illegals, ok? That's the story and everyone has to sing it.

The other part of the story is that we're a nation of immigrants, ok? We simply cannot distinguish between LEGAL immigration and ILLEGAL immigration, ok? Now that's the story, stick to it, ok?

The other part of the story is that deportation is a violation of their rights, ok? Illegals have rights, ok? Now sing that one too, in perfect harmony.

And they are here doing jobs that Americans won't do, ok? That's the clincher. Nevermind that REAL Americans are hocking family heirlooms to put gas in their cars, that's the story and we're all gonna stick to it, ok?

The Republicans make me sick.


149 posted on 04/25/2006 1:31:14 PM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: inquest
By the way, I can't tell you how glad I am that you're not on my side in any of the debates on FR

No doubt like your former poster hero on FR, you like him would probably like to see me "hanging from a tree" or in a gas chamber because of my political speech.

150 posted on 04/25/2006 1:31:45 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

That JUST Social Security taxes mind you, they also pay sales taxes.
Ya, sales taxes paid with welfare dollars.


151 posted on 04/25/2006 1:33:11 PM PDT by VOATNOW1
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To: underwiredsupport

If we can land a man on the moon, we can deport all illegals.


152 posted on 04/25/2006 1:33:17 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Dixie Yooper
"At least you like my idea of ticketing pickup truck drivers with riders in back."

I grew up in West Cocoa, in Central Florida, the last bastion of the great American redneck in the Sunshine State south of the Panhandle.

Riding in the bed of a pick up truck usually meant that we were out on a double date.

153 posted on 04/25/2006 1:35:11 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Dane
Wow. I didn't realize I had such an effect on you.
154 posted on 04/25/2006 1:35:58 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Marine Inspector

Talk to your friend Inspector Harry Callahan.

He doesn't believe that we landed on the moon.


155 posted on 04/25/2006 1:36:05 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: KevinDavis
Yes, he does.

And so does every State and Federal "Representative" who has sat on this issue...hoping it will go away.

156 posted on 04/25/2006 1:36:41 PM PDT by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: ASA Vet; ImaTexan

Good one!! Thanks for the laugh!


157 posted on 04/25/2006 1:37:25 PM PDT by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: VOATNOW1
"Ya, sales taxes paid with welfare dollars."

That's right, those wages in the Earnings Suspense File are reflective of welfare dollars received.

/sarcasm

158 posted on 04/25/2006 1:37:28 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: inquest
Is it because of their "social conservatism" that illegal aliens are so overrepresented in the prison population?

LOL! Good point.
160 posted on 04/25/2006 1:39:43 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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