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C.I.A. Defends Officer's Firing in Leak Case
NYTimes.com ^ | April 26, 2006 | MARK MAZZETTI and SCOTT SHANE

Posted on 04/25/2006 8:57:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard

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1 posted on 04/25/2006 8:57:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

The CIA answers back. McCarthy's lawyers are liars, surprise, surprise.


2 posted on 04/25/2006 8:58:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
"There is no question whatsoever that the officer did both. The officer personally admitted doing both."

Sounds pretty unequivocal to me.

3 posted on 04/25/2006 8:59:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Howlin

(( ping ))


4 posted on 04/25/2006 9:00:12 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Looks like her "spinners" (probably the same as Hillary's) are going to have a tough time on this one.


5 posted on 04/25/2006 9:01:13 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( "the left can only take power through deception." (and it seems Hillary & Company are the masters)
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She negotiated away the charge of "Unauthorized Use of Kneepads"...


6 posted on 04/25/2006 9:03:58 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: goodnesswins

Yep. Rat lawyers are used to yipping all they want without fear of a response. Not this time.


7 posted on 04/25/2006 9:07:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
A C.I.A. spokeswoman, Jennifer Millerwise Dyck, said: "The officer was terminated for precisely the reasons we have given:

Didn't look to me like she stuttered when she said that. I think they've got McCarthy right where they want her, attorneys or not.

j

8 posted on 04/25/2006 9:08:31 PM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: Lancey Howard; Howlin
Officials said that Ms. McCarthy's security clearance was pulled when she was fired, but that no consideration was given to taking away the pension she had earned as a career C.I.A. employee.

My, my. Isn't that special?

Compassion for traitors...

9 posted on 04/25/2006 9:09:28 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Lancey Howard

I would expect better from "Ty" Cobb, McCarthy's lawyer. He is very expensive and was caught in a blatant lie. Oh, what the Hell, he's a Democrat.


10 posted on 04/25/2006 9:09:54 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: Lancey Howard

Not good enough. This dip should be in jail awaiting arraignment.


11 posted on 04/25/2006 9:11:10 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Lancey Howard

Note the use of the plural "reporters". If the CIA knows who the other recipients are it should pass the word.


12 posted on 04/25/2006 9:11:57 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: gaspar
Ty Cobb, a lawyer representing Ms. McCarthy, said again on Tuesday that she never admitted divulging sensitive material. "She did not confess, orally or in writing, to leaking classified information," Mr. Cobb said.

He didn't say she didn't do it. He only says she didn't admit it.

13 posted on 04/25/2006 9:12:37 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Lancey Howard
...but that no consideration was given to taking away the pension she had earned as a career C.I.A. employee.

Doesn't give me a real warm feeling. But it is probably the law, so the 'Rats have to spin the obvious.

14 posted on 04/25/2006 9:12:48 PM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: Logical me
Not good enough. This dip should be in jail awaiting arraignment.

Will never happen unless they can get her for something other than the leak. Most CIA employees know they are NEVER going to go to jail for leaking info unless they are selling it to another country. But for your average CIA employee the firing is way worse than going to jail.

15 posted on 04/25/2006 9:19:35 PM PDT by txroadkill
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To: txroadkill

Doesn't matter...the penalty for leaking SCI is 10 years.

They need to enforce the law on these people. The military would hammer harshly and fairly.


16 posted on 04/25/2006 9:26:54 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: mcenedo; All

I will take the word of the CIA over Cobb any day. He is a democrat hack trying to save McCarthy's reputation, what little she has left.

He is stupid for taking this stance though because it is just going to anger the CIA and the DOJ. Look for them to come down on her very, very hard.

The rats, rogue agents and the antique liberal media is scared to death what is coming. They are standing on the tracks and see the locomotive barreling down on them. This is a huge catch and will be the story of the decade because many more people will be caught including members of the senate, house, msm, cia, fbi, doj. Frog march the mall for the world to see. There has been a coordinated conspiracy of these liberal idiots to undermine this adminstration, and the yrolled the dice one too many times. Game over. Nixon will look like a choir boy before this is all over.

Instictively, they are doing what they have been doing for at least four years now, and that is to manufacture news and spin the truth and allot of times just out and out lie in their news stories. They figure if they can hood wink the public again, they can get opinion on their side. Bush is attacking poor patriotic McCarthy and look at Libby that liar. Yeah, we will fall for that.


17 posted on 04/25/2006 9:28:16 PM PDT by jrooney (CIA traitors)
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To: USNBandit

The last paragraph states that "the officer personally admitted..." If that is not a confession, I don't know what is.


18 posted on 04/25/2006 9:29:59 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: okie01
I read somewhere that she was 10 days away from retirement. Guess we should be glad they at least took away her security clearance. I don't think they could legally have taken away her pension. This is in the 2007 Intelligence Authorization Act that is suppose to be voted on in the House (I think sometime this week):
SEC. 413. STUDY ON REVOKING PENSIONS OF PERSONS WHO COMMIT UNAUTHORIZED DISCLOSURES OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.

(a) Study- The Director of National Intelligence shall conduct a study on the feasibility of revoking the pensions of personnel in the intelligence community (as defined in section 3(4) of the National Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. 401a(4))) who commit unauthorized disclosures of classified information, including whether revoking such pensions is feasible under existing law or under the administrative authority of the Director of National Intelligence or any other head of an element of the intelligence community.

(b) Report- Not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Director of National Intelligence shall submit to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence of the House of Representatives and the Select Committee on Intelligence of the Senate a report containing the results of the study conducted under subsection (a).

2007 Intelligence Authorization Act

19 posted on 04/25/2006 9:31:43 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: Lancey Howard

I read somewhere she is claiming the confession was coerced. Says some guy named Jack threatened to shoot her in the kneecap.


20 posted on 04/25/2006 9:31:48 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Self appointed RNC Press Secretary for Smarmy Sound Bites.)
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To: Wristpin

Penalty for leaking classified info is 10 years for each instance / offense. If they have her doing it more than four times, she is looking at a maximum of 40 years.

If they link her to a conspiracry, and they will, she is facing many more years for that offense and the amount of times she conspired.

Maybe Cobb is saying these things, so her cohorts do not realize she is singing like a canary. She is in allot of trouble.


21 posted on 04/25/2006 9:32:16 PM PDT by jrooney (CIA traitors)
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To: jrooney
Well, you are right so far...

<.a hef ="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/26/washington/26leak.html?_r=1&oref=slogin"/>.

22 posted on 04/25/2006 9:40:16 PM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: jrooney

I think she is part of a HUGE conspracy to bring down Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld.....a soft coup for sure.


23 posted on 04/25/2006 9:40:59 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience. T)
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To: jrooney

The way the minions are going around with the selflish patriot leaker spiel, it worries me that we will get the same milquetoast response from the feds.

I'm still anxiously awaiting arrests for the NSA leaks. I truly thought we would see frogmarching sometime around Christmas.

Heck even Joe Wilson's OPED about his classified trip was a leak.


24 posted on 04/25/2006 9:41:24 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Lancey Howard
THis treasonous bitch and her whnole left wing cabal deserve to be in prison until the war on terror is won.

In the 1940's she would have been executed as a traitor and a subversive.

25 posted on 04/25/2006 9:41:52 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: okie01

Need to bring a criminal charge to justify taking away the pension.


26 posted on 04/25/2006 9:44:06 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Lancey Howard

Could someone give me the url for the place that gives you the login and password for different web sites? Don't want to register at the New York Times site. Thanks.


27 posted on 04/25/2006 9:44:56 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: Wristpin
They need to enforce the law on these people.

They can't. Every citizen (no matter what kind of low life miserable piece of pond scum they are) are entitled to face their accuser and question the evidence used against them. So her attorney will call all of her co-workers, subpoena her files, cases she has worked on, etc.,etc.,etc. The CIA main montra is "confirm nothing, deny nothing". So the government will never be able to turn over classified information with out risking national security.

For most CIA employees, the firing and removal of their security clearance is a death sentence to them. Where are they ever going to find work again??? Even if they left on good terms with the CIA, the CIA will never even confirm that they were an employee, so they have no past employment records or references and they can't tell anyone what they have experience in doing. The only jobs they can find without starting over in life is within the intel community.

The military would hammer harshly and fairly.

The military, on the other hand, has the ability classify Court-Martials and send people to their own prisons with out the civilian world being involved--or even mattering.

28 posted on 04/25/2006 9:50:17 PM PDT by txroadkill
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To: Wristpin

I politely disagree. Bush and Cheney know what is at stake here. They have known for a few years now, since this rogue group began to undermine the war.

That is why Bush put Gonzalez as AG, Porter at CIA, Negropante at DIA and Condi at state. They are cleaning house.

Bush and Cheney realize these are very dangerous people that are traitors. They will swing for the fence on this one.

They look at Libby and maybe Rove being put through hell because of these assho***. They realize the importance of maintaining the senate and the house and the impoeachment possibilites if they do lose the house.

This is Bush's payback time. Watch him COWBOY UP. It is going to be a sight to see.

Oh yeah, just like these intelligence idiots never thought Bush would have the balls to put the captured Iraq documents on the net for the world to see and anyone to translate. They thought Bush would never do it and he did.


29 posted on 04/25/2006 9:51:02 PM PDT by jrooney (CIA traitors)
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To: USNBandit

She probably admitted it to someone she thought was 'safe', somebody that's singin' like a canary in a coal mine.


30 posted on 04/25/2006 9:51:53 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: jrooney

Dang, I love that post.


31 posted on 04/25/2006 9:56:50 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

Thanks. Folks, all you have to do is look at that Bush wanted Tony Snow as his first choice to be his spokesperson, and he got him! I would have never guessed it. Awesome.

The are out to rattle the nest and squash the rats as they run out. They know it is time to school the MSM. I want front row seats.


32 posted on 04/25/2006 10:01:28 PM PDT by jrooney (CIA traitors)
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To: jrooney

"Bush and Cheney know what is at stake here."

That's my problem with this whole milquetoast and possible rovian rope a dope.

We have troops in a combat zone and the message of weakness has made every minute more dangerous for them. I don't even want to think about the deaths the Dems have indirectly caused by pumping up the enemy.

This stuff should have been confronted earlier and harder.


33 posted on 04/25/2006 10:06:11 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin

I agree the dems have directly resulted in the deaths of some of our bravest.

It has been very difficult to crack this nut, but they have been able to start to. This is a very well organized group that has had 90% of the press doing their bidding. Not something that can be solved overnight.

Things are happening now, and it is going to be one hell of a ride. Look for the MSM to never be the same after this. People are going to jail for a long time, and the U.S. Supreme Court will not turn over their convictions, thanks to Bush stacking the court.


34 posted on 04/25/2006 10:12:15 PM PDT by jrooney (CIA traitors)
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To: jrooney

I certainly hope you are right. The Dems couldn't get in line fast enough to vote for the war, then consciously decided to crack a few eggs with the troops when the WMD issue fell into thier laps.

Can we call them traitors now?


35 posted on 04/25/2006 10:15:28 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Lancey Howard
no consideration was given to taking away the pension she had earned as a career C.I.A. employee.

Why the H+ll not!

36 posted on 04/25/2006 10:19:41 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: JaneAustin

Officials said that Ms. McCarthy's security clearance was pulled when she was fired, but that no consideration was given to taking away the pension she had earned as a career C.I.A. employee.

Acting before Ms. McCarthy's dismissal, the House Intelligence Committee asked John D. Negroponte, the director of national intelligence, to study whether it should be possible to take away a pension from a retiree who was subject to only administrative or civil punishment and not criminal prosecution. A provision in the intelligence reauthorization bill, which goes to the House floor Wednesday, gives Mr. Negroponte 90 days to study whether pensions of intelligence officers who leak classified information should be revoked.


37 posted on 04/25/2006 10:22:10 PM PDT by kabar
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...to study whether it should be possible to take away a pension from a retiree who was subject to only administrative or civil punishment and not criminal prosecution.

They need to prosecute her criminally. I hope they do to make an example out of her. It would be a disgrace to allow someone to keep her pension after admitting that she deliberately disclosed classified information on multiple occasions to more than one reporter. It would be a travesty.

38 posted on 04/25/2006 10:25:35 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Wristpin

I would say yes. Anyone that intentionally attempts to undermine our country when they are at war, is not being patriotic but treasonous.

Have you noticed that Kerry, Pelosi, Wilson, Clarke, Berger, Beers, et al are in the same age bracket? They all have the hippy mentality from the sixties. They obtained educations and got jobs in sensitive places and grew up. Yet, they never changed their mindset from the sixties that this country is bad, but they can make it better.

They are very dangerous.


39 posted on 04/25/2006 10:28:05 PM PDT by jrooney (CIA traitors)
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To: kabar
Since I refuse to register for the NY Times web site, was this part of the article?
Associates, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of her sensitive legal situation, say the CIA authorized McCarthy on a number of occasions to talk with reporters. However, the details and timing remain unclear, including whether that was ever true after Goss took over in September 2004.

ABC story

40 posted on 04/25/2006 10:31:44 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: JaneAustin

Yes it was. However, the CIA stated again today that McCarthy provided classified sensitive information to several media sources on several occassions, and she admitted to it.

I am sure they have a signed confession to this. She is in allot of trouble.


41 posted on 04/25/2006 10:36:48 PM PDT by jrooney (CIA traitors)
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To: jrooney

Thanks, probably the same facts in both articles, just different bylines.


42 posted on 04/25/2006 10:42:16 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: okie01

Book deal to follow.


43 posted on 04/26/2006 12:01:24 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: Lancey Howard

Since the Bush Justice Department refuses to prosecute the leakers of this and the NSA info, the Bush Whitehouse should shut the heck up about them. They obviously don't think the leaks are all that bad.


44 posted on 04/26/2006 1:15:20 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Ignore the Drive-by Media. Build the fence. Sí, Se Puede!)
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To: JaneAustin

<< the CIA authorized McCarthy on a number of occasions to talk with reporters >>

We can now see what her defense is shaping up to be. The CIA says she admitted sharing classified information to reporters. Her lawyer says she never confessed to "LEAKING" it.

So she will claim she believed she had the green light from someone senior to her to share the classified info with reporters, and it was therefore not an illegal "leak."


45 posted on 04/26/2006 1:39:12 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Lancey Howard

Take it to court, get some convictions.


46 posted on 04/26/2006 1:45:12 AM PDT by Loud Mime (The Answer: Turn Illegal immigrants into gasoline!)
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To: Lancey Howard
It is time for yet another Great Liberal Transformation, a media propaganda routine where seditious liberal nutcases are magically transformed into perceived victims.

How long before the Marxists trot out the "witch hunt" meme, aye?

Throw her ass in jail now.

47 posted on 04/26/2006 3:31:35 AM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Coerced...To force to act or think in a certain way by use of pressure.

In my thinking, that 'pressure' could be she was faced with "We have the PROOF"


48 posted on 04/26/2006 4:33:14 AM PDT by RetSignman (( HELP...I'm trapped between these curved things))
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To: Lancey Howard
Maybe somebody told her the 'prison' story was a plant and she is claiming she did not release classified intel.
49 posted on 04/26/2006 4:39:46 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

If my damaged memory serves me (or their recruiter may have stretched a little), CIA employees are under the 20 year rule for retirement eligibility the same as the armed forces. Thus she may be eligible to have her pension stripped. Not really sure about this one.
Anyhow Rush scored a big one refering to the Dims as the "Culture of Treason".


50 posted on 04/26/2006 5:02:58 AM PDT by libertyhoundusnr
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