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At What Point Is Islam Treason? (treated as traitors and sent to prison )
ChronWatch ^ | Friday, April 28, 2006 | Pete Fisher

Posted on 04/28/2006 3:46:17 AM PDT by IrishMike

I wonder what has happened to common sense in this country. Treason is treason, no matter who commits it and should be treated as such when the acts of individuals or groups call for it.

The Investigative Project on terrorism ( IPT ) reports that the Queens, New York-based Islamic Thinkers Society held a rally outside of the Israeli consulate last week in response to the recent Tel Aviv bombings.

Identified by Kilafah flags, they are also noted for their nasty remarks about Jews, Christians, homosexuals, Israel, Danes, and anyone else that has shown contempt for Islamic actions around the globe. However, this rally sparked something in me that really stuck in my craw, and should for every American. Members of the group held signs that said “Islam will dominate,” with pictures of the Islamic flag hanging over the White House.

Plain and simple, this is treason. Any group calling for the domination of the nation where they reside in, should be high treason. These people should be arrested, the group dismantled and outlawed, and the individuals sent to prison.

I took these quotes from the Counter Terrorism Blog (Islamic Quotes) to show the mentality of Muslims living here in America and other free nations.

They claim they refuse to accept the United Nations, they told the FBI and CIA to burn in Hell, and they told Homeland Security to burn in Hell.

They also claimed that a mushroom cloud was on the way. This in itself should be enough to put these idiots up on charges. They claim they will follow no one but Allah and refuse to accept the USA as any authority to be acknowledged. They claim Islam will dominate the world.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; jihad; muslim; muslims; religion; terror; terrorism; waronterror; wot
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Also in article - "If they stay and call for violence and jihad against the government and peoples of those nations, they need to be treated as traitors and sent to prison where no special rights are given to them. No toilets facing Allah--like they screamed for in Gitmo. And no special diets".

And my favorite line

"Just the same old prison we would all get for committing treason. It will be pretty hard to enjoy a life with 72 virgins looking like a wad of gum left on the grill too long".

1 posted on 04/28/2006 3:46:22 AM PDT by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

'at what point is islam treason' let me count the ways...


2 posted on 04/28/2006 3:48:31 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: IrishMike

When your gov't refuses to protect its borders, and willing looks to legalize a entire class of criminals.....who left to arrest those committing treason?


3 posted on 04/28/2006 3:51:50 AM PDT by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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To: IrishMike
At What Point Is Islam Treason?

Islam is not a religion, its a declaration of war.

4 posted on 04/28/2006 3:54:28 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: IrishMike

>>If they stay and call for violence and jihad against the government and peoples of those nations<<

That seems like the right standard - we don't arrest people for their religion but we do have laws against advocating violent overthrow of the government.


5 posted on 04/28/2006 3:57:54 AM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: kinoxi
Just because they say they are a religion doesn't mean they are a religion. They are a toxic ideology and, in this country, should be treated as such.
6 posted on 04/28/2006 4:05:55 AM PDT by isrul
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To: IrishMike
There is so much "treason" going on we would have to lock up half of Washington and the media just for starters. I think treason has lost it's meaning, and our leaders don't care one way or another.
7 posted on 04/28/2006 4:06:17 AM PDT by manwiththehands ("'Rule of law'? We don't need no stinkin' rule of law! We want AMNESTY, muchacho!")
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To: IrishMike
This article makes absolutely no sense.

While it describes objectionable behavior, I fail to find treason or even sedition.

The Islamic Thinkers Society held a rally.

They uttered: 

. . . nasty remarks about Jews, Christians, homosexuals, Israel, Danes, and anyone else that has shown contempt for Islamic actions around the globe. However, this rally sparked something in me that really stuck in my craw, and should for every American. Members of the group held signs that said “Islam will dominate,” with pictures of the Islamic flag hanging over the White House.

Plain and simple, this is treason. Any group calling for the domination of the nation where they reside in, should be high treason. These people should be arrested, the group dismantled and outlawed, and the individuals sent to prison.

Don't believe any of this rises to the level of treason:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

Somebody best point out to Mr. Fisher nobody has declared Islam the enemy.  Wishing for an Islamic Republic of the United States is not a crime.

8 posted on 04/28/2006 4:07:15 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: manwiththehands

You have it right. You dont have to go to a meeting of Islamics to see treason. You can watch most any democrat in their TV appearances.


9 posted on 04/28/2006 4:08:35 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Kakaze

When one of these crazed muzzies is slicing through your friggin' neck with a butcher's knife, you be sure to complain about the mexicans coming over the border!

LLS


10 posted on 04/28/2006 4:11:02 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Racehorse

"Nobody has declared Islam the enemy"
Thats true, (As far as our PC Government goes) but Islam has declared us the enemy.


11 posted on 04/28/2006 4:12:05 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: isrul

i agree. the de-nazification after WWII should be a model for the islamic issue.


12 posted on 04/28/2006 4:13:18 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: Kakaze

This is a thread about Islam!!!!!!!!


13 posted on 04/28/2006 4:13:41 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: BnBlFlag

I was thinking of a response, yours is sufficient.


14 posted on 04/28/2006 4:14:52 AM PDT by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Amen!!!!!!!


15 posted on 04/28/2006 4:15:15 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: mariabush
" This is a thread about Islam!!!!!!!! "

Actually it's a thread about a threat to the security of this nation.

Pointing out the current actions of the gov't is absolutely germaine to the discussion.

Sheesh, another self appointed moderator.

16 posted on 04/28/2006 4:18:27 AM PDT by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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To: mariabush

Yes and Islam has now joined in support of the May Day march of intimidation.


17 posted on 04/28/2006 4:21:39 AM PDT by isrul
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To: BnBlFlag
. . . but Islam has declared us the enemy.

Would you then lobby Congress to pass a sedition law removing American Muslims from federal civilian and military service?

The problem with declaring a movement or religion an "enemy" is you are faced with doing something about every person who is a member of that movement or religion.

18 posted on 04/28/2006 4:22:13 AM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
" When one of these crazed muzzies is slicing through your friggin' neck with a butcher's knife, you be sure to complain about the mexicans coming over the border! "

Do a little research, its not just mexicans comming over the border, its all nationallities and many of those are enemies of the U.S.

19 posted on 04/28/2006 4:22:48 AM PDT by Kakaze (I'm now a single issue voter.....exterminate Al Quaida)
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To: IrishMike
from the mouth of frogs:

"I think there are moderate Muslims, they are even the large majority, but I do not believe there is a moderate Islam," Philippe de Villiers, head of the anti-immigrant Movement for France (MPF) party

20 posted on 04/28/2006 4:25:18 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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