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George Allen's Race Problem - Pin Prick
The New Republic ^ | 4/28/06

Posted on 04/28/2006 5:58:15 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: areafiftyone

Unfortunately the story is far too long and almost unreadable.


41 posted on 04/28/2006 7:10:49 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: areafiftyone
True I'm sure he's fine in Virginia and I am positive he will win his Senate Seat. But we are talking about 2008 and Virginia is not the only state that Allen has to impress.

A lot of people have been talking about 2008 since Nov 2004. I'm much more concerned that Allen and other conservatives win this November.

But I will say that if what Allen is doing is not playing particularly well in New York, then I'd say he's in a strong position to win an electoral college majority.

42 posted on 04/28/2006 7:11:27 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

It is a long post. It is 3 pages on the New Republic website. I may have screwed up on a couple of paragraphs too.


43 posted on 04/28/2006 7:12:20 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Coop

Allen is not doing particularly well across the U.S in every poll as a potential presidential candidate. He's poling in the single digits. I'm not talking about New York at all. I don't expect any Republican to win in New York - I've totally given up on my state and I agree with you totally about New York.


44 posted on 04/28/2006 7:13:39 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: linda_22003

I have caught and eaten many species or fresh and salt water fish here on the east coast. I have never planked fish..but I figger it must be tasty or why else would one do it.

Although never having eaten Shad or catching them for that matter, on a couple of Boy Scout canoe expeditions with my 3 sons, on the Delaware river, on the NY/PA border, I watched as anglers reeled in countless numbers of them.

My task was not to denegrate the planking of fish....it was in fact meant to denegrate the 2 people I mentioned and their lifestyle. the fish cooking method had, to my demented mind a humorous ring to it...so I co-opted it for denegration purposes.

No fish or lesbians were harmed in the making of this post.


45 posted on 04/28/2006 7:14:52 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero
No fish or lesbians were harmed in the making of this post.

ROFLMAO!!

46 posted on 04/28/2006 7:15:45 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone; Corin Stormhands

>None of this means Allen is a racist, of course. He is certainly not the same guy today that he was in the '80s. But his interest in Southern heritage and his fetish for country culture goes back even further. And what's truly improbable is how someone with his upbringing ever acquired such backwoods tastes.<

Good grief. No, Mr/Mz New Republic writer, of course you aren't implying Allen is a racist. Why, of course you've done no such thing.

At least Allen is genuine in his penchant for things Southern (go ahead, New Yawkahs, gasp away). He didn't have to hire a "redneck tutor" like Mark (Mr Ed) Warner did to get elected in our Commonwealth


47 posted on 04/28/2006 7:16:30 AM PDT by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: areafiftyone

It seems like all the potential Republican candidate have some achilles' heel.

I hate to say it, but I'm not sure we have anyone who looks as formidable on paper as Evan Bayh does for the Democrats.


48 posted on 04/28/2006 7:18:13 AM PDT by Altair333
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To: Darnright
(go ahead, New Yawkahs, gasp away).

you talkin ta me? (Robert DeNiro voice)

49 posted on 04/28/2006 7:19:51 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Altair333
It seems like all the potential Republican candidate have some achilles' heel.

And Democrats. Like I said - if this is ALL they have on Allen - he will breeze right thru this!

50 posted on 04/28/2006 7:21:42 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Coop

Webb will get the nomination over Harris Miller.


51 posted on 04/28/2006 7:22:35 AM PDT by kabar
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To: areafiftyone
Allen is not doing particularly well across the U.S in every poll as a potential presidential candidate. He's poling in the single digits. I'm not talking about New York at all. I don't expect any Republican to win in New York - I've totally given up on my state and I agree with you totally about New York.

Okay, I see your point. But my response to that is that Allen is not polling poorly because people don't like what they see. Most outside of VA (except political junkies like us) have no clue about the guy. Nor should they. It's too early to be worrying about Nov 08. Dubya didn't really emerge on the scene until about Jan 99, after his convincing re-election numbers in the Texas gov's race. We're still a good 8-9 months away from that same timeline for 2008's Presidential election.

52 posted on 04/28/2006 7:24:09 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: kabar

Unless he doesn't.


53 posted on 04/28/2006 7:26:20 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: areafiftyone

Was he an adult member of the KKK? Wrote about hating that the military would be integrated?? No???

Then when nominee Allen gets attacked for what he did when he was 16 years old, the Republican counterattack should be to ask when Mr. Byrd of W. Va. will be appropriate censured for his far worse egregious adult sins.


54 posted on 04/28/2006 7:26:26 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Coop; areafiftyone
We're still a good 8-9 months away from that same timeline for 2008's Presidential election.

Exactly. As excited as I am (does it show?) about Allen being the nominee in 2008, it does not help his senate race for us to focus on that.

The RATS are already trying to make it an issue.

55 posted on 04/28/2006 7:27:08 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: areafiftyone

"Mr. Allen is known as a racist in our Southern California society which is why we feel he relocated to an environment which was more supportive of his view points."


Or maybe it's because relocating would make the commute a little more bearable with dad being the Redskins new head coach and all.

This article is laughable. Just throwing stuff against the wall to see if anything sticks. Hard to believe cowboy boots could wig anyone out as much as they apparently did this author.


56 posted on 04/28/2006 7:29:27 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: areafiftyone

>you talkin ta me? (Robert DeNiro voice)<

Ah jeeze. With your screen name, I thought you were from Nevada.


57 posted on 04/28/2006 7:29:41 AM PDT by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: sinkspur

Dear sinkspur,

"Can he fire up the conservative base?"

That's a good question. He may be unable.

However, he will at least hold together the conservative base and the Republican coalition. He won't fracture it. That's in contrast to what would happen with the nomination of either Mr. Giuliani or Mr. Romney.

If Sen. Allen is nominated, and he manages to win the enduring affection of conservatives, he'll win the election. If he can't fire up the base, he'll lose. But it'll be close. With either Mr. Giuliani or Mr. Romney, I'm not sure the loss will be all that close.


sitetest


58 posted on 04/28/2006 7:32:12 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Darnright

LOL I know - I sometimes I wish I was!


59 posted on 04/28/2006 7:32:28 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone
This Allen hit piece shows how much the RATS fear Allen in 2008.
Thats too bad, Allen will be the nominee and he will win in 2008.

I hope he spits chew on the RAT nominee in the debates.
60 posted on 04/28/2006 7:35:35 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Juan Williams....The DNC's "Crash test Dummy" for talking points.)
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