[Balding_Eagle]

even fictitious relatives

Believe what you will, they were our guest for Thanksgiving. Driving a brand new F250.

of people who make stuff up trying to defend bloated, government subsidized farming.

I'm not trying to defend anything. My father hated any govenment involvment, and we resisted it as long as we could. If I were still farming, I'd be selling organic.

I'm laughing at your foolishness.

What got me started with you was your "Baloney" assertion that somehow growing organic doesn't affect how many people we can feed.

I left farming 20 years ago. At that time the total corn crop was a little under 7 B bushels. Today, 20 years later, on less ground, using fewer inputs, we produce over 12 billion. That all came from conventional farming. Organic farming would produce about 4 billion poor quality, not 12.

Go spend your money, more power to you, but don't spread the lie that everyone can do organic. They can't

[WorkingClassFilth]

I agree with what you say.

Personally, I have an organic garden largely because I'm lazy and don't want ag chemicals laying around with critters and kids. Having said that, I have no problem with proper use of ag chemicals if needed and part of a sound IPM program.

Conventional agriculture (AKA: input agriculture, green revolution technology, etc.) does, indeed, feed the world. Norman Borlaug did more to alleviate human suffering than any other person in the history of the world. In fact, probably 25% or India and China today is alive because of his hybrid selection program and chemical input use. The bottom line is that Western ag feeds the world and, as you said, it does so with less land each year and less and less inputs every year.

Organic ag, OTOH, can never, will never, meet the world's needs. The biomass needed to replenish the soil's loss over much of the fertile world could never be met without direct importation at a tremendous cost - in effect, unsustainable. Like you, I am intending on making organic ag production a larger part of my own enterprises and, in the future, the main basis of my land's production - because of the money.

[Orbiting_Rosie's_Head]

Go spend your money, more power to you, but don't spread the lie that everyone can do organic. They can't

If your friend is getting rich from "fools" like me, why not? Your view doesn't make any sense. Every day I see more and more "health food" on the shelves without the usual conglomeration of additives, hormones, chemicals, etc. It seems the world is full of fools. Imagine: Some people want something they consider good, and someone else is willing to provide it. What a shame. I'll buy my organinc milk, and you can have your 12 billion bushels of corn, most of which is wasted making sweetners for soda-pop, and inefficient fuel that tears up the engine in your car.