[Nathan Zachary]

"I want this immigration problem solved. But I don't want America to lose its soul in the process. I feel this most strongly as regarding family units that are established here where one member or more is a illegal. At some point the cure becomes immoral."

The "Cure" is for them to stand in line and wait for LAWFULL entry. Then they will not find themselves in that predicament. Even if they make a choice to immigrate legally, they make a decision to leave family behind. That is reality, and a conscious CHOICE. That choice does not excuse them from the Cesar's laws, which scripture tells them they must obey as well. There is a LAWFULL process they can use to bring relatives into the country.

When they break the LAW, they must pay the penalty of doing so. I don't understand how you can sit there and say "you want to see this problem resolved". We already have LAWS do deal with these problems. These people have decided to break those laws, for what? There own greed. They do not fit the designation of "refugees" in the Vatican's dictionary. They are criminals who's situation is a result of their own actions, mostly greed.

The "Immoral" part of the cure comes from their own hand. They obviously haven't been taught scripture well the church in the country of origin.

As for America loosing it's soul... where have you been for the last 50 years? Allowing crimminals to flood into the country isn't going to add to the number of salvagable souls in America, it's only going to degrade it further.

I guess we should just throw up our hands, and allow all other nations in the world to dump their criminals and unwanted in this country. The Church will fix everything.

Have you ever asked yourself why it is these same people who are touted as such good and skillfull workers, and an asset to the nation, can't seem to make the countries they come from into good, decent places to live?
Or is it easy to simply say it's their bad government's fault? It's the people who make those governments, and the same people who corrupt them. They can also overthrow them if they wanted to. But they don't. Why?
Because it's always easier to come and take what others have built. Then once there is nothing left to take, they move on to the next greener pasture.

[catholicfreeper]

Ok, just a few thoughts on that. First, I know its the Gospel for many to classify these people as criminals. However, for the past 30 years we as a Country and a Society have allowed this to continue. Basically, the Govt and Society has turned a blind eye to receive the economic benefits. I am fully aware that many were not for that choice. But it happened. The problem is their here in great numbers and its a huge mess. We can talk about consequences to illegal migrants but, that in my viewpoint is a two way street. Some people here have been here for decades and in fact have families here. Thats a issue. A massive blanket deportation policy without taking that into consideration is problematic to some.

Second, the Church recognizes the right for Govts to have the right to sane immigration policies. Its not really a open border issue. No one is saying that its the US responsibility to take care of the World's masses. At least no one sane

Third, the poverty some of these folks is astounding. I am not sure that many are leaving for "Greed" Many are leaving for basic survival. Now, these workers come from some places that have horrible Govts. However, this is not much different from other immigrant groups that have been successful.

Finally, I am not for throwing up my hands and doing nothing. The illegal immigration problem must be solved. In fact immigration from certain Countries needs to be slowed. I suspect thats going to take various solutions. Its also going to take a much more aggressive and different policy toward Mexico and Latin America as a whole. It seems since the Communist were defeated the whole area has progressively gone off our radar screen.