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To: kellynla

Now, this if right off the top of my memory...but, as I recollect, the Robert Frost poem that many in this debate keep referring to, i.e., fences make good neighbors, actually is not true, according to the poem. I thought it was Frost's opinion that fences kept people apart and that that was not a good thing.

However, before you all flame me, I think a really big fence is a good idea for the border problem.


5 posted on 05/02/2006 8:00:41 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: RexBeach
You are correct that Frost opined that fences did not make good neighbors (poem "Mending Wall"), but he alluded that in cases where possessions (cows, etc.,) might get intermingled they might be appropriate - which would be a similar case with illegal immigration invasion. The neighbors he was talking about were actual neighbors, not folks from a different country ignoring the laws of the present country.
11 posted on 05/02/2006 8:19:12 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: RexBeach; kellynla
From: http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15719

Mending Wall
by Robert Frost

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,

That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,

And spills the upper boulders in the sun;

And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.

The work of hunters is another thing:

I have come after them and made repair

Where they have left not one stone on a stone,

But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,

To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,

No one has seen them made or heard them made,

But at spring mending-time we find them there.

I let my neighbor know beyond the hill;

And on a day we meet to walk the line

And set the wall between us once again.

We keep the wall between us as we go.

To each the boulders that have fallen to each.

And some are loaves and some so nearly balls

We have to use a spell to make them balance:

'Stay where you are until our backs are turned!'

We wear our fingers rough with handling them.

Oh, just another kind of outdoor game,

One on a side. It comes to little more:

There where it is we do not need the wall:

He is all pine and I am apple orchard.

My apple trees will never get across

And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.

He only says, 'Good fences make good neighbors.'

Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder

If I could put a notion in his head:

'Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it

Where there are cows? But here there are no cows.

Before I built a wall I'd ask to know

What I was walling in or walling out,

And to whom I was like to give offense.

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,

That wants it down.' I could say 'Elves' to him,

But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather

He said it for himself. I see him there

Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top

In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.

He moves in darkness as it seems to me,

Not of woods only and the shade of trees.

He will not go behind his father's saying,

And he likes having thought of it so well

He says again, 'Good fences make good neighbors.'

15 posted on 05/02/2006 8:48:25 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!)
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To: RexBeach

"Something there is that doesn't love a wall." Frost

They must have had an illegal alien problem back then, too.


17 posted on 05/02/2006 8:53:47 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: RexBeach

I always thought that "Good fences make for good neighbors" was attributed to Ben Franklin in "Poor Richard's Almanac".


21 posted on 05/02/2006 9:11:15 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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To: RexBeach

You're right twice.

That was the message about Frost's poem and

We should have a wall!


33 posted on 05/02/2006 3:34:25 PM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: RexBeach
However, before you all flame me, I think a really big fence is a good idea for the border problem.

The last couple weeeks I have been getting "surveys" from the GOP Senate pansies in the mail. They ask all about my wonderfully crucial opinion, but guess what--they never even ask a question about the borders.

I just send one back about every three days--with a magic marker scrawled across the front--NO AMNESTY; NO "GUEST WORKERS"; "BUILD the WALL". Maybe, just maybe, they'll get the hint. Subtle a-holes that they are.

37 posted on 05/02/2006 7:29:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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