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"Dad Was Fine When I Came Out of Closet" -- Mary Cheney
Drudge Report ^ | May 2, 2006 | Drudge

Posted on 05/02/2006 1:10:54 PM PDT by meandog

New York, N.Y. – In her new memoir, NOW IT'S MY TURN(Simon & Schuster/Threshold Editions, 2006), Mary Cheney writes that when she told her parents she was gay, the first words out of her father’s mouth “were exactly the ones that I wanted to hear: ‘You’re my daughter, and I love you, and I just want you to be happy.’”

VANITY FAIR editor Todd Purdum reports that Mary Cheney tells her story in a voice very much like her father’s, and that she came out to her parents when she was a junior in high school, on a day when, after breaking up with her first girlfriend, she skipped school, ran a red light, and crashed the family car. Cheney writes that her mother hugged her, but then burst into tears, worried that she would face a life of pain and prejudice.

When Purdum asks the vice president whether he thinks gay people are born that way, Cheney scrunches up his mouth, fixes him with a look that says “Nice try,” then says: “I’m not going to get into that. Those are deeply personal questions. You can ask.”

Mary Cheney tells Purdum that her father “has very little tolerance for bullshit, pardon my French.” She also says that one common reaction from people who have read the manuscript of her book is “‘Wow, you guys really have this close-knit, loving family,’ and it always strikes me as ‘Yeah, of course we do.’ It was very surprising to me that people would think we didn’t.”

When Purdum asks Cheney if he is fatalistic about his heart disease, Cheney says, “I am. I don’t even think about it most of the time. You do those things a prudent man would do, and I live with it.” Asked what he would have for breakfast at Nora’s Fish Creek Inn, his favorite pre-fishing spot in Wilson, Wyoming, Cheney responds without missing a beat: “I’d probably have two eggs over easy, sausage and hash browns,” then hastens to add that that is not his normal breakfast. “The day I go fishing, I get off my diet,” he says.” At a roundtable lunch with reporters a couple of years ago, two who were pres­ent tell Purdum that Cheney cut his buffalo steak in bite-size pieces the moment it arrived, then proceeded to salt each side of each piece.

Cheney tells Purdum that he has not changed over the years, but perhaps many of his contemporaries think he has “because of my associations over the years, or because I came across as a reasonable guy, people have one view of me that was not necessarily an accurate reflection of my philosophy or my view of the world.”

Purdum asks Cheney if, during his “darkest night,” he has even “a little doubt” about the administration’s course. “No,” he tells Purdum. “I think we’ve done what needed to be done.” Of the debate over whether or not the administration hyped the pre-war intelligence, Cheney says, “In the end, you can argue about the quality of the intelligence and so forth, but ... I look at that whole spectrum of possibilities and options, and I think we did the right thing.”

Cheney rejects the caricature of him as the power behind the throne, insisting, “I think we have created a system that works for this president and for me, in terms of my ability to be able to contribute and participate in the process.” When Purdum says that the cartoon characterization of him must not be accurate, Cheney says, “My image might be better out there, this caricature you talk about might be avoided, if I spent more time as a public figure trying to improve my image, but that’s not why I’m here.”

Purdum reports that Cheney travels with a chemical-biological suit at all times. When he gave his friend Robin West and his twin children a ride to the White House a couple of years ago, West commented on the fact that Cheney’s motorcade varied its daily path. “And he said, ‘Yeah, we take different routes so that “The Jackal” can’t get me,’” West tells Purdum. “And then there was this big duffel bag in the middle of the backseat, and I said, ‘What’s that? It’s not very roomy in here.’ And [Cheney] said, ‘No, because it’s a chemical-biological suit,’ and he looked at it and said, ‘Robin, there’s only one. You lose.’”

Purdum talks with former New York Times reporter and former executive editor of The Philadelphia Inquirer, James Naughton, who asks of Cheney: “Does he acknowledge that he is not as pleasant as he used to be?” Naughton knew Cheney as a fellow prankster during the 1976 campaign, and all but sighs in search of an explanation as to why he is so different now. “I guess I would like to believe,” he says, “without any evidence to support it, that coming very close to death has somehow compelled him to act as though he only has so much breath and so much life, that he’s only got so much time to accomplish what he has to do. But the public figure is nothing like the private one that I remember.”

Gerald Ford tells Purdum: “He may have changed a bit, but that was required for the change of circumstances.” Ford, who will turn 93 in July, adds, “Times change, and people change as a result of that.”

“If you’re looking for a change from one point to another, being vice president is sui generis,” Lynne Cheney tells Purdum. “It’s not quite like any other job.”

The June issue of Vanity Fair hits newsstands in New York and L.A. on May 3 and nationally on May 9.


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Mary looks the portrait of an All-American...Son!

1 posted on 05/02/2006 1:10:59 PM PDT by meandog
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To: meandog

Drudge's posting of this article is a a cheap and tawdry political trick. He is not a good man.


Sorry. Couldn't resist.


2 posted on 05/02/2006 1:13:49 PM PDT by MC Miker G
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To: meandog
You’re my daughter, and I love you, and I just want you to be happy.’” Only in American today would this be a surprise or newsworthy to the MSM. As a father of two daughers I would say the same. I also have a son. Parents loving their child must be a surprise to the MSM. No wonder there is such a disconnect today.
3 posted on 05/02/2006 1:13:57 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: meandog

If we were all the same, wouldnt life be boring!?


4 posted on 05/02/2006 1:14:15 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: meandog
...her father “has very little tolerance for bullshit"

Which explains his well-defined atttitude towards the press. :-)

5 posted on 05/02/2006 1:16:00 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: theDentist

That's what we love about him.

This article is BS anyway, what the hell is a father gonna do?

You love your kids not matter what they do.


6 posted on 05/02/2006 1:17:41 PM PDT by bannedfromdu
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To: meandog

One simply wonders which teacher, student leader or family friend "helped" junior high age, Mary Cheney, realize her dream of becomming a lesbian.


7 posted on 05/02/2006 1:18:37 PM PDT by zerosix (Romans 5:8)
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To: edcoil
Only in American today would this be a surprise or newsworthy to the MSM. As a father of two daughers I would say the same. I also have a son. Parents loving their child must be a surprise to the MSM. No wonder there is such a disconnect today.

Me, 2, too! Both are compassionate and lovely (like Mary Cheney) but neither is gay (both nurses). Still, I could love them none the less if they were!

8 posted on 05/02/2006 1:18:55 PM PDT by meandog (If I were to draw the odious Islamic prophet Muhammad, he would have horns, a tail, and a ptichfork!)
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To: meandog

Da man!

9 posted on 05/02/2006 1:19:44 PM PDT by pikachu (For every action there is an equal and opposite government program)
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To: bannedfromdu

He probably already knew. And your kids are your kids all ways and always.


10 posted on 05/02/2006 1:19:55 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Labs rule)
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To: edcoil
Only in American today would this be a surprise or newsworthy to the MSM.

Not when they are gay. There are lots of parents who have turned their backs on their children because of it. Alan Keyes is one. I'd imagine many FReepers would not be nearly as accepting as the Cheneys.

11 posted on 05/02/2006 1:19:58 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: zerosix

Oops, forgot to add "Girl Scout" leader since GSA strongly supports lesbianism, abortion, and sexual identity programs.


12 posted on 05/02/2006 1:22:31 PM PDT by zerosix (Romans 5:8)
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To: meandog

Liberals cannot understand that conservatives do not disown everyone who disagrees with them or do something that they might not approve of. Conservatives like people. Liberals on the other hand...


13 posted on 05/02/2006 1:22:50 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: conserv13

Lots of people don't know what they would do until they are faced with the situation. They might bluster about it now, but if the chips were on the table, I bet they would have a different reaction.


14 posted on 05/02/2006 1:23:11 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (RICE 2008)
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To: bannedfromdu

"what the hell is a father gonna do?
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Oh, there are some fathers who don't react like that. I know two who threw their kid out. One of the kids was just 16. Not all parents can deal with it.


15 posted on 05/02/2006 1:25:11 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: meandog
Cheney writes that her mother hugged her, but then burst into tears, worried that she would face a life of pain and prejudice.

Her mother must have already known John Kerry and John Edwards back then.

16 posted on 05/02/2006 1:26:21 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: zerosix
One simply wonders which teacher, student leader or family friend "helped" junior high age, Mary Cheney, realize her dream of becomming a lesbian.

Exactly. Something happened, etc....that helped her along her way. What that is is not for us to know, as it is a private family matter.

I wish her only the best and of course her father and family still love her, that is what parents do.

17 posted on 05/02/2006 1:26:54 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: conserv13

I don't know how I would react. I would try to talk to them and if they still chose the deviant lifestyle, I probably would not want much to do with them. Hopefully I won't ever know.


18 posted on 05/02/2006 1:26:54 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: conserv13
I'd imagine many FReepers would not be nearly as accepting as the Cheneys.

My gay brother is sitting on my couch as I type. Should I throw him out because I disapprove of his past lifestyle?

It's a bad idea to assume thing about Freepers. There are some who are vocal but most Freepers aren't mean. Or heartless. Or stupid.

19 posted on 05/02/2006 1:27:23 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: conserv13

Alan Keyes isn't worthy to shine Cheney's shoes.


20 posted on 05/02/2006 1:28:19 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: mlc9852


I simply can't imagine disowning a relative, let alone a child because they were gay. Family is family, and you are supposed to love your children no matter what.


21 posted on 05/02/2006 1:30:38 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: conserv13

Alan Keyes, bless his heart, is a force of nature, but is also bit of an egomaniac. I don't think his ego could handle forgiving a daughter who acted contrary to his loudly vocalized principals.

I believe homosexuality is a sin, but in my book, someone who would disown a child for their homosexuality is a very small person indeed.

Incidentally, I don't think homosexuality is a worse sin than greed, heterosexual adultery or otherwise not honoring God in our daily lives.


22 posted on 05/02/2006 1:30:49 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: mlc9852

"I don't know how I would react. I would try to talk to them and if they still chose the deviant lifestyle, I probably would not want much to do with them."




What a shame! Our offspring often do things we don't agree with. They remain our offspring, however. I do hope you're wrong about your reaction.


23 posted on 05/02/2006 1:31:41 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: bondjamesbond
My best friend's sister came out of the closet a number of years ago. Her father is an uber conservative yet... at the time I was rather surprised he took the whole thing so well. I was at a party of theirs and saw that her dad treated her "girlfriend" real nice. She told me he had the same reaction that Cheney did.

Now if one of our sons came home and told me they were gay... I am not sure what I would do but their mother would probably kick them in the a$$. I probably would be much calmer about it :-)

24 posted on 05/02/2006 1:31:43 PM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: meandog
‘You’re my daughter, and I love you, and I just want you to be happy.’”

A wonderful, warm and intelligent response. Compare with Randall Terry, the hero of the radical right. Per Terry:

Jamiel is "bringing great sadness to our home and embarrassment to our family."

25 posted on 05/02/2006 1:32:27 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: DJ MacWoW

Past lifestyle? That caught my attention. (I'm being sincere.) Out of curiosity, how did it become merely a "past" lifestyle?


26 posted on 05/02/2006 1:32:52 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: meandog
I think the Cheneys are great...they don't wear their hearts on their sleeves, they didn't make an issue of Mary's lifestyle choice in the 2004 campaign--the Democrat operatives did. John Kerry and John Edwards both mentioned it, I think.

I am appalled that anyone would think less of Dick Cheney because he loves his daughter--lesbian or not.

27 posted on 05/02/2006 1:32:54 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: LWalk18

I never said I wouldn't love them.


28 posted on 05/02/2006 1:32:54 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: meandog
Mary Cheney tells Purdum that her father “has very little tolerance for bullshit, pardon my French.”

When I saw Cheney "debate" Lieberman on the Larry King Show on CNN during the 2000 campaign, I immediately sensed this. I wasn't seeing a tradional pol at work, I was seeing one of the few adults in politics tell it straight and without the usual coating of BS.

I've always had the highest regard for the man because of that.

29 posted on 05/02/2006 1:32:56 PM PDT by Publius
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To: MineralMan

I hope I'll never find out!


30 posted on 05/02/2006 1:33:18 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: edcoil

No, it's not parents, just conservative parents.


31 posted on 05/02/2006 1:34:07 PM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: meandog

He's her father, I would be disappointed if he said anything else.


32 posted on 05/02/2006 1:35:40 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: mlc9852

I hope I'll never find out!




For your childrens' sake, I hope not, too. I know one woman who was rejected by her parent because she is a lesbian. Nothing in her life hurt her as much as that rejection.

She keeps trying to re-establish a connection, but her father just calls her names and won't allow her to visit. A real pity, since her mother is dying of uterine cancer right now. Her idiot father won't even let her visit.

Think very carefully before you judge your children. You may well regret it some day.


33 posted on 05/02/2006 1:37:02 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Howlin

ping to this thread
(I love the Cheneys,LOL)


34 posted on 05/02/2006 1:37:32 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: bannedfromdu
Interesting that so many are taking the "of course, what else would he say?" line.

For alternative approaches, perhaps he can ask Ambassador Keyes.

35 posted on 05/02/2006 1:38:08 PM PDT by lugsoul ("Crash" - the movie that teaches we are all incurable racists, except when we are not.)
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To: dinoparty
Past lifestyle? That caught my attention. (I'm being sincere.) Out of curiosity, how did it become merely a "past" lifestyle?

He got tired of the idiots. The wingbeaters. He never could understand the term "coming out of the closet" when in reality they are inviting the public into their bedroom. 2 years ago, he started reading his Bible.

36 posted on 05/02/2006 1:38:27 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: conserv13

I think a lot of Freepers would surprise you. Some, of course, would not.

That said, I really admire the Cheneys and this article makes me admire the VP even more.


37 posted on 05/02/2006 1:42:38 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: mlc9852
Not that this'll matter to most, but she is a woman,
to whom the Bible (OT) doesn't specify in this regard.
Their may be reasons, which I may think displaced,
but that doesn't change this essential observation.
38 posted on 05/02/2006 1:44:08 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: meandog

I guess it's all in how you define love. When they stand before God one day, will it matter that it felt real nice to look the other way?


39 posted on 05/02/2006 1:46:09 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: pollyannaish

Lynn Cheney is my favorite---I would love to spend a day with her.


40 posted on 05/02/2006 1:46:54 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: MineralMan

And how should children feel for completely disappointing their parents and going against what the parents believe? It's a two-way street.


41 posted on 05/02/2006 1:48:08 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: meandog
Cheney rejects the caricature of him as the power behind the throne

Funny how for decades the media made fun of the office of the Vice President and how useless the job was. Most Vice Presidents had little or no power or influence in that job.

Now that Dick has been a powerful and influential Veep, all of a sudden people seem to be bothered by that. Who cares. Compare Dick Cheney to Al Gore ... and please don't spray your soda on your screen while doing so!

42 posted on 05/02/2006 1:48:12 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: Nonstatist
If we were all the same, wouldnt life be boring!?

That's a statement empty of meaning. I am quite sure there are many differences you find unacceptable.

43 posted on 05/02/2006 1:48:23 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: meandog

I wonder how Dad would have done had he not been a politician in the worlds eye ?


44 posted on 05/02/2006 1:48:30 PM PDT by stompk
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To: onedoug

"Their may be reasons"

You lost me but I believe that should be "there".


45 posted on 05/02/2006 1:49:08 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: conserv13
Not when they are gay. There are lots of parents who have turned their backs on their children because of it. Alan Keyes is one. I'd imagine many FReepers would not be nearly as accepting as the Cheneys.

What if your child said they were attracted to pre-teens? Or sheep? Would anything cause you to love them with the truth about life and morality?

In my opinion, Alan Keyes loves his daughter much more that the Cheney's love Mary. And the details of his family situation were widely misreported.

46 posted on 05/02/2006 1:51:58 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: DJ MacWoW
My gay brother is sitting on my couch as I type.

In your estimation, was it choice or chance? and if choice, why?

47 posted on 05/02/2006 1:52:10 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

VERY smart and articulate woman. I am afraid I would be a little intimidated. I think more by her than her husband! LOL.


48 posted on 05/02/2006 1:52:28 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: meandog
More information than I really needed. Guess she feels the need to cash in while Pop is still in the limelight.

Just, ick!

49 posted on 05/02/2006 1:54:02 PM PDT by don-o
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To: meandog

Lots of facial resemblance.While I ain't cool on the gay thing, I am very cool with the tight family thing. ;-)


50 posted on 05/02/2006 1:54:18 PM PDT by glorgau
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