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"Dad Was Fine When I Came Out of Closet" -- Mary Cheney
Drudge Report ^ | May 2, 2006 | Drudge

Posted on 05/02/2006 1:10:54 PM PDT by meandog

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To: blowfish

Hyperbole.

In your socially liberal little pink world, verbal criticism is equivalent to stoning.

Your words illustrate the grave inability to think and reason rationally, merely spout emotional claptrap.


181 posted on 05/02/2006 3:46:14 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
I've been reading this thread and I'm amazed. I was trying to figure what's allowed and what isn't. You should allow illicit sex in your home and approve of it in order to prove love? If that's the case then you should allow smoking and drinking in your home even if you do neither. And you should allow porn, prostitutes and drug use even if you disapprove or think it immoral. After all, if you REALLY love someone, you let them indulge in harmful behaviour.

Unbelievable.

182 posted on 05/02/2006 3:46:54 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: durasell

You're telling people who do not accept homosexuality with aplomb that WE are in effect, sinning, by saying anything against it. In order to be internally consistent with your so-called philosophy of life, you should never, ever disagree with or crticize anyone. But you do - with social conservatives. Because we criticize the promotion of immorality.

Hmmm. We can't criticize, but you can. See the hypocrisy?


183 posted on 05/02/2006 3:48:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
Your words illustrate the grave inability to think and reason rationally, merely spout emotional claptrap.

Not at all. There are people who are advocating the casting of their offspring out of their lives. Care to defend that "rationally"? I hope I never get to the level of "rationality" where I would cast my little boy out of my life if he grew up and told me he was gay.

184 posted on 05/02/2006 3:49:10 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: durasell

If homosexuals had the same attitude and didn't shove the gay agenda down everyone's throats via judicial fiat, bias laws, school indoctrination, gay pride parades, and so on, no one would know or care what they do.

Unfortunately, they have no wish to keep it private. Maybe some do, but enough don't so that the activists and their supporters are rapidly trying to change the world into one that suits them.


185 posted on 05/02/2006 3:52:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Annie5622
I listened to a speech Keyes gave in Iowa - a townhall discussion - in which he talked about his daughter.

Care to share when and where this was, exactly?

Dr. Keyes hasn't done any "townhall discussions" in Iowa since his daughter "came out".

186 posted on 05/02/2006 3:53:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: little jeremiah

I didn't say you were "sinning." I didn't say you have to accept anything you don't want to accept. And I certainly didn't say that you should never disagree with or criticize anyone.

I never said any of those things, so your logic -- such as it is, is faulty. (That is constructive criticism, by the way).

What I did say is that folks should be free to live their lives the best they can. That includes dealing with being gay, having a gay child or dealing with gay folks in general.


187 posted on 05/02/2006 3:53:40 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Democratshavenobrains
If Republicans in Congress would stop spending money and enforce immigration law, I wouldn't care how many men they slept with.

LOL

188 posted on 05/02/2006 3:53:40 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: DJ MacWoW

thank you for your candid answer.


189 posted on 05/02/2006 3:53:53 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: little jeremiah

Totally agree with your #185 response. I'm not sure why people don't keep that part of their life private.


190 posted on 05/02/2006 3:57:00 PM PDT by chalkfarmer
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To: little jeremiah
Your post is very sweet and everything. But I think it is unrealistic to be a blanket guide. Nevertheless, we are talking about this specific post. Cheney said, "I just want you to be happy." Mrs. Cheney worried that she would face prejudice. We are not talking about your third way. We are talking about your first way, and that is what I was responding to. I never said you have to cut the child off. I just said that that wasn't the worst response. The worst response is to embrace the sin. Beyond that, I think it depends on other dynamics of the relationship and all the details of the relationship we are not privy to.

It is my deep belief that true happiness cannot be found in immorality. And moral character is the first essential in a person, so a parent who ignores that does not love his child.

But again, I never advocated cutting all ties, though I think there is a time and place for that in adult parent/child relationships. I also think there is an issue with weakening the values of the entire family. Like it or not, the moral sense of the entire family is weakened by just acting like it doesn't matter. Essentially that's the minimum of what everyone is praising: Ignore it.

191 posted on 05/02/2006 3:57:39 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: conserv13
There are lots of parents who have turned their backs on their children because of it. Alan Keyes is one.

I'm generally impressed with Keyes, but he's made some statements I don't accept. Still, I would be careful to avoid painting what happened with his daughter with too broad a brush.

192 posted on 05/02/2006 3:57:42 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: DJ MacWoW

"Besides, they're 5% or less of the population according to census records."

At least we'd win San Francisco in a landslide : )

The Democrats aren't going to legalize gay marriage on a national level. Some of the biggest homophobes in the country are Bush haters. I just think there are more important things in government to do than draft a Protection of Marriage Amendment. In case you haven't noticed, gas prices are double what they were 5 years ago. Not to mention all the kook regimes in the world are picking now to flex their pitiful muscles.


193 posted on 05/02/2006 3:58:04 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: little jeremiah

If homosexuals had the same attitude and didn't shove the gay agenda down everyone's throats via judicial fiat, bias laws, school indoctrination, gay pride parades, and so on, no one would know or care what they do.

Unfortunately, they have no wish to keep it private. Maybe some do, but enough don't so that the activists and their supporters are rapidly trying to change the world into one that suits them.



It's my understanding that these are primarily "big city" events and issues based on local community standards. Are there a gay pride parades in NYC and SF -- yep, because they are part of the community.


194 posted on 05/02/2006 3:59:10 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: conserv13
I'd imagine many FReepers would not be nearly as accepting as the Cheneys.

A lot of them unfortunately are, and they're pretty vocal about it. Fortunately, there's always the "abuse" button.

195 posted on 05/02/2006 4:02:47 PM PDT by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is to conservatism what Howard Dean is to liberalism)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Are you a Calvinist? You have the vocabulary of a staunch Calvinist: condemnation, judgment, shame, disgust, with plenty of hellfire sprinkled throughout.

I'll bet you scare small children.

196 posted on 05/02/2006 4:02:58 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: sinkspur

TULIP


197 posted on 05/02/2006 4:03:36 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: sinkspur

p.s.

One of America's greatest screenwriters grew up in a strict Calvinist household. He didn't see a movie until he was a teenager.


198 posted on 05/02/2006 4:05:20 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan; Annie5622
You're quite rejecting Christianity...for the religion of humanism. Homosexuality is sin...its worth noting, especially when its being displayed quite publicly in a tell all book by the Vice President's daughter. What is disrespectful...pointing out immoral behavior or immoral behavior. We don't need you treating Christians like dummies..

The irony of that last statement goes right over your head.

199 posted on 05/02/2006 4:05:45 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Do you consider homosexuals and sinners your enemy? Or do you just condemn them?


200 posted on 05/02/2006 4:05:57 PM PDT by Sunsong
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