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You said -- "Yup. lying is the only rational option here too."

Well..., you see..., this is where you're wrong.

Let's grant -- for the sake of discussion -- that it is *nonsense* that someone can *truly* have a premonition like that. You believe (if I've gotten this correct) that there is no such thing as premonitions.

Now, where you're wrong -- is not necessarily in your belief on "premonitions" -- but rather -- in whether someone else can *believe* in something that is wrong (i.e., wrong from your view or perspective).

Namely, there are other people who believe in premonitions. And *therefore* they act upon that belief.

In your mind -- since it's "not true" (i.e., the "existence of premonitions") -- they *have to be lying*.

You've failed to take into consideration that other people don't believe as you do -- and THEREFORE they *can act* on a belief that is different than yours -- and still *not be lying* -- even if what they act upon is not true.

So, that's where you're wrong -- regardless of whether premonitions are real or not.

And thusly, that's why I say I take their "testimony" as truthful. They have no real reason to lie about "concrete things" that happened to them, personally, before Flight 93 occured.

Regards,
Star Traveler

You can bring out tall the psycho babble you like but the fact remains that trying to strong arm me through text was a dismal failure.

Have you ever asked yourself WHY YOU are so intolerant?

Have you ever asked yourself WHY others MUST AGREE WITH YOU?

Could it be because it is ALL ABOUT YOU?

EGO?

PRIDE?

As for me, you can believe pigs fly. I won't lose a wink of sleep over it nor would I harass someone into believing it.

Psssssst I don't believe in ghosts or dead people talking to you either. I chalk this stuff up to the same - nonsense!