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San Diego judge orders: Take down that cross! (American Communist-Liberal Union Strikes Again!!!)
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | May 3, 2006

Posted on 05/03/2006 4:09:29 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan


Mt. Soledad cross and veterans memorial above San Diego (soledadmemorial.com)

Ruling on a 15-year-old ACLU case, a federal judge today ordered the city of San Diego to remove a mountain-top cross within 90 days or face a fine of $5,000 a day.

U.S. District Judge Gordon Thompson said, "It is now time, and perhaps long overdue, for this court to enforce its initial permanent injunction forbidding the presence of the Mount Soledad cross on city property," the San Diego Union-Tribune reported.

Thompson ruled in 1991 the Mount Soledad cross violates the so-called "separation of church and state" but the case has remained in courts and become an issue of public policy for more than a decade.

ACLU lawyer James McElroy believes San Diego officials finally will give up their fight.

"I don't think the city has its heart in taking more action," he said, according to the paper.

A city lawyer argued during the hour-long court hearing today that citizens had voted for transfer of the land under the cross.

Proposition A, passed by 75 percent in July, called for the city to donate the cross to the federal government as the centerpiece of a veterans memorial.

The ballot initiative came about after the city refused to donate the cross and memorial to the federal government. A group called San Diegans for the Mount Soledad National War Memorial took just 23 days to gather 105,000 signatures.

In a ruling now on appeal, however, a Superior Court judge found the transfer unconstitutional.

The Union-Tribune said the group behind the public vote on transfer likely will appeal Thompson's decision.

The 29-foot cross has stood on Mount Soledad as the center of a war memorial on city land since 1954. The first cross on the site was built in 1913.

A bill authorizing the federal government to take over the memorial was authored by Republican U.S. Reps. Duncan Hunter and Randy Cunningham. President Bush signed the bill into law in December.

Responding to today's ruling, Mayor Jerry Sanders said he would recommend the city council and city attorney take action to save the cross.

The battle began in 1989 when Phillip Paulsen, an atheist, filed suit, and a court ordered the city to remove the cross. In 1998, the city sold the property to the Mt. Soledad War Memorial Association, which again was challenged in court. The sale originally was upheld but later ruled unconstitutional by the full panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco and remanded back to district court to work out a remedy.

During its brief period of ownership, the Memorial Association made significant improvements, including extensive landscaping and the addition of more than 3,000 plaques honoring military veterans.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aclu; cross; gordonthompson; lawsuit; moralabsolutes; mountsoledad; mtsoledad; purge; ruling; sandiego; soledad; soledadcross
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1 posted on 05/03/2006 4:09:35 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

What happens if the city refuses to take down the cross, or pay the fine?


2 posted on 05/03/2006 4:11:02 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Why doesn't the city just sell the land to a Catholic church for $1.00 and issue the required permits for allowing the cross.


3 posted on 05/03/2006 4:13:24 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Sell the property to a non-profit, private group who then maintains the cross in perpetuity.


4 posted on 05/03/2006 4:14:22 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

I like that idea.


5 posted on 05/03/2006 4:15:27 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

these people are despicable


6 posted on 05/03/2006 4:17:16 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Too bad we can't put the judge up on that cross...


7 posted on 05/03/2006 4:17:39 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

What about all the crosses in the national cemeteries. Isn't that a violation of church and state? Another anti-Christ religious bigot in a robe.


8 posted on 05/03/2006 4:17:40 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (My Homeland Security: Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper)
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To: doug from upland

First four posts are top drawer in my book!Maybe the VFW or the American Legion could take it over. Now, where is that checkbook...


9 posted on 05/03/2006 4:18:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: Kenny Bunkport

Or suppose crowds of people try to block dudes in dozers driving up that mountain. The politically correct crowd hyperventilated about that Rachel Corrie girl who went to the palestinian territories and got run over by a bulldozer. So I expect the politically correct crowd would be against any physical action to remove protesters here if that happens.


10 posted on 05/03/2006 4:19:12 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: HEY4QDEMS

I just called the mayor's office. They said they tried something like that before but it didn't work. They aren't through trying and really appreciated the call.


11 posted on 05/03/2006 4:19:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

BTTT


12 posted on 05/03/2006 4:20:31 PM PDT by hattend (You won't know you're being invaded until you try to stop it.)
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To: Mrs. Shawnlaw

There have been other attempts to sell or transfer the land to other organizations that are not public organizations . The courts have struck down those transfers in the past. That's why we are at this stalemate at the 11th hour today.


13 posted on 05/03/2006 4:20:39 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

let the illegals make human barricades to block its removal


14 posted on 05/03/2006 4:21:47 PM PDT by avile
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Here is another democratic supported action by the ACLU. When will the Republicans wake up and start using these actions against the democrats???????
15 posted on 05/03/2006 4:22:58 PM PDT by martinidon (Bush won sKerry lost and Soro's is out millions for nothing!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Given the ACLU's pathological fear of crosses, I have begun to consider that they may be an organization of vampires.
16 posted on 05/03/2006 4:23:11 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan; Victoria Delsoul
Given the ACLU's pathological fear of crosses, I have begun to consider that they may be an organization of vampires.
17 posted on 05/03/2006 4:23:25 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Rachel Corrie had it coming...and I don't have any pity for her...hopefully she'll be forgotten.


18 posted on 05/03/2006 4:25:06 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: HEY4QDEMS

They tried it before.


19 posted on 05/03/2006 4:25:41 PM PDT by Hildy (Producing a penny now costs the government more than 1.4 cents)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath

Shhhhh that will come next


20 posted on 05/03/2006 4:28:44 PM PDT by roverman2K6
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