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Gay couple can't contest marriage definition
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/5/6 | Bob Egelko

Posted on 05/05/2006 12:48:15 PM PDT by SmithL

SAN FRANCISCO - A federal appeals court today dismissed a challenge by two Orange County men to a law denying federal marriage benefits to same-sex couples, saying a couple that isn't legally married under state law has no right to contest the federal definition of marriage.

The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reached the result urged by gay-rights groups, which opposed the federal suit because they are trying to overturn California's marriage law in state court.

The appeals court also refused to consider the constitutionality of the state's ban on same-sex marriage, saying it should be addressed first by the California courts.

The central issue in the case was the validity of the Defense of Marriage Act, signed in 1996 by President Bill Clinton. The law reserved federal marriage benefits -- joint tax filing, Social Security survivors' benefits, immigration status and numerous other marital rights -- to opposite-sex couples. Another provision allows states to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages that were performed in another state or a foreign nation.

Both the federal law and the state law were challenged in a 2004 suit by Arthur Smelt and Christopher Hammer of Mission Viejo after they were twice denied a marriage license.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; 9thcircus; homosexualagenda; lawsuit; playinghouse; ruling; samesexunions
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1 posted on 05/05/2006 12:48:19 PM PDT by SmithL
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a couple that isn't legally married under state law has no right to contest the federal definition of marriage

This seems like a "Duh!" moment ...

2 posted on 05/05/2006 12:50:15 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh 50% less on Mars!)
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To: SmithL

Using lack of standing to dismiss the case is weasling.


3 posted on 05/05/2006 12:50:31 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: SmithL
Wow, this came out of the 9th?
4 posted on 05/05/2006 12:51:51 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Semper Paratus
Using lack of standing to dismiss the case is weasling.

Not really, judges do it all the time. Wasn't that Plessy vs. Ferguson or something?

5 posted on 05/05/2006 12:54:15 PM PDT by conserv13
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6 posted on 05/05/2006 12:55:16 PM PDT by edpc
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To: OXENinFLA
Wow, this came out of the 9th?

Here's why:

"The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reached the result urged by gay-rights groups, which opposed the federal suit because they are trying to overturn California's marriage law in state court."

7 posted on 05/05/2006 12:55:29 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: conserv13

Dred Scott, sorry.


8 posted on 05/05/2006 12:55:56 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: SmithL

Well of course they can't. The gay activist strategy is to have a married homosexual couple from Massachusetts bring that suit. Duh! You can't sue for federal benefits until you first gain state recognition, or the DOMA is irrelevant. I would say it was a waste of money but they probably got the services for free from some activist attorney.


9 posted on 05/05/2006 1:15:08 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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SAN FRANCISCO - A federal appeals court today dismissed a challenge by two Orange County men to a law denying federal marriage benefits to same-sex couples, saying a couple that isn't legally married under state law has no right to contest the federal definition of marriage.

The federal appeals court should have dismissed the challenge to reality as follows:

A homosexual couple are free to engage in delusion; however, society is not required to reward or grant privelege to such activity...

10 posted on 05/05/2006 1:16:35 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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Arthur Smelt and Christopher Hammer

No comment.

11 posted on 05/05/2006 1:18:00 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: OXENinFLA
Wow, this came out of the 9th?

Read carefully.
The Ninth denied because they agreed with the gays that they had a better chance of getting the result they wanted in State Court!!

12 posted on 05/05/2006 1:18:44 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: SmithL

Arthur smelts Christophers hammer????


13 posted on 05/05/2006 3:22:36 PM PDT by catmanblack. (he is the great I AM-)
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Christopher hammers Arthur's smelt?


14 posted on 05/05/2006 3:28:44 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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Christopher's hammer smelts Arthur?


15 posted on 05/05/2006 3:37:58 PM PDT by moog
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Hammer smelts Arthur & Christopher!!!!!


16 posted on 05/05/2006 3:53:12 PM PDT by catmanblack. (he is the great I AM-)
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To: SmithL

"The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reached the result urged by gay-rights groups, which opposed the federal suit because they are trying to overturn California's marriage law in state court."

When the nutty 9th circuit makes an actual sane ruling, you can bet their is something amiss in how they got there.


17 posted on 05/05/2006 3:54:25 PM PDT by WOSG (Faith & Reason)
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To: Tax-chick

So I take it then that me and my sheep "gerdie" have very little chance also..... Call the ACLU


18 posted on 05/05/2006 3:57:31 PM PDT by last american
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To: SmithL

This is such a game of ping-pong between the courts. We need a Federal Marriage Protection Act to settle the matter.


19 posted on 05/05/2006 4:17:58 PM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: last american

Maybe in a state court.


20 posted on 05/05/2006 4:22:12 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Dump the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I'll weigh 50% less on Mars!)
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