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The Enemy Within (GOP Strategists: "If Election Were Held Today... 90% Chance We'd Lose the House")
OpinionJournal ^ | 05/08/2006 | John Fund

Posted on 05/08/2006 12:01:07 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

bttt


21 posted on 05/08/2006 3:40:06 AM PDT by kalee
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

To keep majority in Nov2006 Congress must stop the unholy alliance with the socialists! They must not pass the Specter/Mccain/Kennedy bill. They need to get back to showing the major differences between the two parties not act as one.


22 posted on 05/08/2006 3:51:51 AM PDT by stopem (To allow a bunch of third world country nationals to divide Americans is unconscionable!)
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To: the_Watchman
I can stay home and get (1)deficit spending (2)no closing of the border, and (3)the oil industry beat up for supplying us with oil.

...and liberals on the court... and higher taxes... easier access for abortion... and appeasement to terrorists and virtually complete abandonment of an offensive war against those evil fanatics that wish you and your family dead.

But remember, there's no difference between the parties! < / sarcasm >

23 posted on 05/08/2006 3:53:18 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Mullings - An American Cyber-Column by Rich Galen
http://www.mullings.com/index.html

Polls v Reality

Monday May 8, 2006

I love the fact that I am out of the Washington, DC metropolitan area fairly frequently. The Washington, DC metropolitan area is filled with people like me. People like me talk to other people like me, picking up scraps of information, half-baked (and totally unsupported) theories from other people like us, then we race each other to be the first on CNN of FNC to say it out loud so that reporters will hear it, write about it, and declare it to be: TRUTH.

This is the most efficient system for garbage recycling in the whole of human history.

I am not immune to the polls. I read them. I talk to the pollsters. I see the look on their faces as they describe the electoral terrors which are impending a mere six months distant.

Then I go out into the real world, and see and hear things which are far different.

As a theory-baker of the first water, I am fully capable of thinking of a theory, rolling it around on my intellectual tongue, tinkering with it to give it just a dash of history and a pinch of insight and then foisting on … you.

I have been saying for some time that while I don't doubt the polling numbers - when they're all within a couple of points of each other, they are probably good numbers - but I think they are measuring the wrong thing.

When I go out into the non-Washington world, I do not see Republicans hiding under their beds, or staying away from GOP events as would be the case if the base were overwhelmingly angry or disheartened.

I was the GOP party treasurer in Marietta, Ohio 45750 during the Watergate era. People who had held fundraisers in their homes were denying they had every heard of the Republican party.

That was a bad time. According to the Clerk of the House website, in the 93rd Congress (1973-75) the party division was 243 Democrats and 192 Republicans.

When the House convened in January of 1975 the results of the previous November's election had decreased the GOP numbers to 144; a loss of 48 seats.

Two years later Republicans lost yet another seat, so in the 95th Congress - four years after Watergate - they found themselves with only 143 Members to the Democrats' 292.

There is absolutely nothing like that rampant in the heartland. Not even in what the Democrats consider to be ground zero for their electoral gains in November: Ohio.

The New York Times sent reporters Adam Nagourney and Ian Irbina out to Columbus to see what is what.

Ohio's Governor Bob Taft is sitting at about 17% in the polls.

SIDEBAR I believe I have been quoted saying that Bob Taft and French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin are the only two politicians in the world who wish they had George W. Bush's numbers.

I have nothing against Taft, but I take great delight in following the collapse of de Villepin's career after he lied to then-Secretary of State Colin Powell about France's support for a UN resolution on Iraq.

END SIDEBAR

Ohio is central to the Democrats' hope of taking over the US Senate. However, as the NY Times reporters wrote yesterday that following the primaries last week, "party officials and analysts said one of the Democrats' most alluring targets, Senator Mike DeWine, seemed less vulnerable than he had earlier this year."

That is largely because he will be opposed by Democratic Congressman Sherrod Brown who, according to the NYT, "supports abortion rights, opposed the constitutional amendment prohibiting same-sex marriage and voted against the war in Iraq."

On the House side, Democratic hopes of taking the seat held by US Rep. Bob Ney (who has been implicated in the lobbying scandals) "were set back when the Democrats' favored candidate … lost to a lesser-known and politically inexperienced challenger..."

On the Gubernatorial front, Secretary of State Ken Blackwell won the GOP primary which caused the Ohio Democratic chairman to say the race to replace Taft "could prove tougher than many Washington Democrats think."

There it is: What people in the real world think is very, very different from what those of us in Washington think.

If the Democrats can't sweep Ohio, it is difficult to see how they can take control of either the House or the Senate.

No matter what the polls say.

On a the Secret Decoder Ring page http://www.mullings.com/dr_05-08-06.htm today: A link to the NY Times piece, the etymology of "of the first water," a link to the Clerk of the House web page showing which party had how many seats going all the way back to 1789; a Mullfoto from my trip to Paris last month, and another ugly animal Catchy Caption of the Day.


24 posted on 05/08/2006 3:56:59 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Coop
"But remember, there's no difference between the parties"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...........
glad you ended with that line..the truth of it is plain'

Political parties are: about the business of staying in power-nothing more.
Conservatives are about ideas and limited gov and limited spending and protecting our borders, and our rights such as FREE SPEECH, PRIVATE PROPERTY..the GOP and DEMS could care less about above ..they pander so yes there is very few differences between them at this point. sad but true
25 posted on 05/08/2006 4:02:15 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: ConsentofGoverned

It's not true, as I quite ably demonstrated. Anybody who honestly believes there's no difference is either a fool or a liar. Does that offend you? Fine.


26 posted on 05/08/2006 4:05:41 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: the_Watchman
The real distinction is CONSERVATIVE/LIBERAL!

In fact a LIBERAL REPUBLICAN (i.e., McLame, Snowe, Collins, Chaffee, etc.) is more damaging than a LIBERAL DEMOCRAP because he is assumed by the majority of voters to be supportive of his Majority Party.

The Liberals have overwhelming control of both Houses of Congress and a very strong influence on the Administration.
27 posted on 05/08/2006 4:09:52 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: leprechaun9
The Liberals have overwhelming control of both Houses of Congress and a very strong influence on the Administration.

Oh brother. [rolling eyes]

28 posted on 05/08/2006 4:13:07 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: stopem
They need to get back to showing the major differences between the two parties

And those would be?

29 posted on 05/08/2006 4:14:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: Coop
"It's not true, as I quite ably demonstrated. Anybody who honestly believes there's no difference is either a fool or a liar. Does that offend you? Fine."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..............
no you do not offend, you just go back to the head up your A$$..GOP is great, my party before my country or my principles..you and those like you are why the GOP is in big trouble.
30 posted on 05/08/2006 4:15:34 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: Jim Noble

You already know what they are, Jim. You just refuse to acknowledge it, and instead harp on your pet issues.


31 posted on 05/08/2006 4:15:35 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
It's so easy to get you goobers to fall back into your "Kool-aid" accusations. LOL! Your little "concerned conservative" act doesn't last long, for some odd reason.

I was and still am a right-leaning independent. I just don't buy exaggerated rhetoric when proof is staring me in the face.

32 posted on 05/08/2006 4:17:25 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: arbooz
Most are too blind (or indoctrinated) to see such simple truth.

The truth is laid out for you up above. Instead of "blind" and "Kool-aid" type comments, why not address the points? Fascinating thought, isn't it?

34 posted on 05/08/2006 4:31:55 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"If the election were held today, I'd say the odds are 90% that we'd lose the House," says GOP consultant Mike Murphy.

Until I read this, I was pessimistic about our chances of holding the House. Mike Murphy is NEVER right about ANYTHING. I wish he would go work for the 'Rats. He's our own Dick Morris, only without the charm.

35 posted on 05/08/2006 4:40:46 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: ModelBreaker
It's too bad that the war is the overriding issue. There is only one party that will fight the war. So conservatives need to support the R's regardless. The alternative is unthinkable.

Security is the overriding issue. And re-electing a party committed to importing 100,000 new legal Muslim immigrants a year, and allowing countless others to cross our southern border under cover of millions of Mexicans does not enhance security.

If you knowingly vote for non-conservatives, you lose the right to complain about liberal outcomes.
36 posted on 05/08/2006 4:44:24 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Matchett-PI
There it is: What people in the real world think is very, very different from what those of us in Washington think.

Correct conclusion, drawn for some very wrong reasons. There aren't enough people who "hold republican fundraisers" to be an accurate predictor of anything, and if your view of the electorate comes from hobnobbing with such people, November is going to be a surprise.
38 posted on 05/08/2006 4:47:14 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The GOP needs an engergy policy (drill, drill, drill and build refineries, and put in some greenie stuff to make it go down well) in which they have to hammer the Dems. The big problem is that it's not an unfair question to ask why it has not been put in place alreadly


39 posted on 05/08/2006 4:49:53 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: leprechaun9
In fact a LIBERAL REPUBLICAN (i.e., McLame, Snowe, Collins, Chaffee, etc.) is more damaging than a LIBERAL DEMOCRAP because he is assumed by the majority of voters to be supportive of his Majority Party.

You slice it and call it roast beef but you're serving baloney.

40 posted on 05/08/2006 4:50:33 AM PDT by Stentor
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