Skip to comments.Mary Cheney Considered Quitting 2004 Campaign Over Gay Marriage Issue
Posted on 05/08/2006 4:06:47 PM PDT by skandalon
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And some people choose to make others miserable, and some people choose to focus on others' misery and some people like to sit in judgment of others' choices - as if they are God's little helper.
No, they don't all act the same; just the activists you see on your TV screen. A lot of homosexuals don't even want marriage; they just want to be left alone to live their lives.
"Is this your idea of moral equivalence? Homosexuality is morally equivalent to killing someone or being a dictator?"
No, it's my idea of moral inequivalence.
Please see my post 29. There is not equivocation intended in my post whatsoever outside of the common theme of a parent feeling shame over the actions of a child.
If anything, my post is a question of degree. But even if it were an equivocation, how would saying that a parent's love trumping a child's actions (be it murder or homosexuality) make my post even worth commenting on?
Further, I pondered if a dictator's parents could view that child's actions with shame, which given the nature of my post, would certainly not imply equivocation.
Thanks for the clarification
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume this is none of your f'cking business. What happens in their family is none of our business, unless Dick decides to shoot them or something lol.
Yeah, on re-reading my original post, I wasn't being clear at all, and I see how you could have drawn that inference. Hope I didn't come across hostile. That wasn't my intent.
Sure they do. They may not choose their appetites but they do choose their behaviors. If they have no capacity for self-control, as you suggest, then they are a danger to society. I am sure that some live much riskier lives than others. In fact, some wonder whether marriage might bring more safety.
The thing that irks me is that they promote this hedonistic idea as if there will be no consequences for self indulgence, then they are standing right there to profit and benefit from the downfall and degradation of any opponent like jackals.
No problem. I just wasn't clear what your point was(g). I appreciate you explaining it. Turns out, imo, it was a good point!
Lesbians' brains react differently to sex hormones than those of heterosexual women, new research indicates.
That's in line with an earlier study that had indicated gay men's brain responses were different from straight men - though the difference for men was more pronounced than has now been found in women.
Lesbians' brains reacted somewhat, though not completely, like those of heterosexual men, a team of Swedish researchers said in Tuesday's edition of Proceedings of the National...
But giving them "domestic partnerships" is the same thing as being married. Just a different name for it...
At first I thought you may have meant to say regresses. But I see your point - the liberal can only accommodate the Bible if it progresses or is metamorphosed to their beliefs.
Nevertheless, you're correct, and although homosexuals have no monopoly on the practice they are prime examples of the type that discount or outright ignore those parts of the Bible which don't coincide with how they think matters should be. (God has some nerve telling us how to live!)
I would think that the Cheneys love their daughter very much. I have seen or heard nothing that would indicate otherwise. They seem to be a wonderful family.
As a parent of 3 teens, I can assure you that it is quite possible (and common) to love your children and still be disappointed in some of the things they do. Most of us are very fortunate that parents can love their children, in spite of their faults.
Here's the question/issue nobody addresses: Every day legally ordained clergy perform "weddings" for gay couples. The unions, of course, are not recognized by the gubmint.
So, should these clergy be banned from conducting the services? And what defines a marriage -- gubmint recognition or the blessing of clergy?
She is flogging a book.
Does a subsidiary of ABC own the rights to the book? must be so.
Newsflash to the deviant, no way is homosexuality accepted in marriage in europe. Only in countries which need a weak family unit to keep socialism on life support.
Even the EU order is only advisory and non-binding.
She should have quit.
It works out quite well when attempting to remain on topic -regardless, I do not consider moral relative or anecdotal arguments valid -as such I do not promote their introduction. Whether or not I am heterosexual, male or female, have children, grandchildren or practice a celibate monastic existence is not relevant to the facts...
Your statement is too ambiguous to derive any position from... I guess I can assume you advocate defeatism and social pacifism with a smidgen of indignant outrage and ambiguous finger pointing...
Homosexual activity is a choice and it is a wrong choice...
There are some like myself that oppose the homosexualization of society because they know that homosexual activity is unhealthy, disordered and promulgates a miserable death style that negatively impacts all of humanity...
I probably don't notice them.
I am not aware of the existence of lesbian brains...
It looks like more junk science -more propaganda...
Misery is a choice and a wrong choice. Not knowing the difference between what is personal and what is public is a choice and a wrong choice. Not knowing the difference between what is God's and what is government's is a choice and a wrong choice. Being a pharisee rather than a disciple is a choice and a wrong choice. Over eating is a choice and a wrong choice. Being unloving in word or deed is a choice and a wrong choice. Being hard hearted is a choice and a wrong choice. Having unclean thoughts is a choice and a wrong choice. Feeling better than others is a choice and a wrong choice...etc etc etc
And all of them - every single one of them negatively impacts all of humanity.
There is a perfect example of junk.
Maybe you can start an "all of them" agenda ping list and opine about everything equally... Somewhere else...
I suggest you move on to another topic if you can not face reality and do not want to discuss the premise of this topic -the homosexual disorder -the leftists' sacred cow...
But you sure can expose yourself as one of the modern day pharisees(g).
My posting simply reiterates reality and counters the delusion premising the article of propaganda specific to the homosexual disorder you were so gracious to introduce into the discussion.
It is odd that you are specific in support of homosexual propaganda yet have attempted in ambiguous fashion to avoid and or discredit anything specific claiming the homosexual condition is disordered and to be avoided...
I simply stated my understanding of the scientific fact that there is no such "thing" as a lesbian brain -period... Scientists can not yet identify a lesbian -how can one imagine scientists can identify a lesbian brain? LOL!
Now as to real junk -your postings on this discussion thus far taken as a whole quite biased and quite supportive of the homosexualization of society...
On the one hand you ambiguously denounce all who would sit in judgment of those who choose to engage in homosexual activity while also attempting to divert the topic by introducing other things as morally wrong as homosexual activity. All this while adding in junk science propaganda! LOL
I would suggest you just give up -it is quite transparent what you attempt here... The more you post the deeper the hole you dig...
And just who is it that has made the personal public?
Actually, let's keep it simple and avoid personal name calling and personal attacks -shall we?
I oppose the homosexualization of society and consider homosexual activity to be disordered and something to be avoided -it is something to be discouraged, something not meriting any social privilege or reward...
Can you transcend meek ambiguousness and passive personal attacks to stick your neck out for what you believe SPECIFIC to the question? I do not think you can do it -I think your fear of zotting is too strong...
Your postings simply show your hatred your hard-heartedness, your mental rigidity and your blatant attempt to place yourself as judge of others.
As I say, you expose yourself as a modern day pharisee...the taleban Christians - those who want to control others' lives when their own are so clearly tainted with sin.
Do you mean like this statement from you?
I guess I can assume you advocate defeatism and social pacifism with a smidgen of indignant outrage and ambiguous finger pointing...
Pointing out that you expose yourself as a modern day pharisee is just accurate feedback for you(g). Hopefully you are capable of inner reflection...
Unless you are without sin yourself - you are out of line, imo, with your hatred and condemnation of others.
My point here is that you are, imo, delving into things that are not your business. I would urge you to put your energies into reducing the size and scope of government - not trying to increase it by spying on people and getting into their bedrooms.
Well, I am an atheist... go ahead expose yourself... you are using the Christians as a proxy for hatred of Judaism, aren't you?
Morality and all of its associated concepts are from the belief some higher power defines what is correct in human behavior. Today, "morals" are a religious pagan philosophy of esoteric hobgoblins. Transfiguration is a pantheon of fantasies as the medium of infinitization. Others get derision for having an unwavering Judaic belief in Yahweh and/or Yeshua, although their critics and enemies will evangelize insertion of phantasmagoric fetishisms into secular law.
Mosaic Law (of which the Ten Commandments is just a part) is the foundation of Western Civilization. Genesis is the primary focus of the Declaration of Independence, from where our Constitutional rights are derived. The Ten Commandments are the foundation of our judicial system.
Moses wrote Genesis. This is why such people will jump up and down screaming when the Ten Commandments are displayed or the Creationist idea of monogamy from the book of Genesis is introduced.
The latter (Genesis) also ruins the illogical and non-biological arguments of homosexual monogamy. In a secular sense, homosexuality is an idolatry of perversion. It is in no way an anatomical function of the human organism, but a phantasmagoric creation from within the mentally disturbed human mind, a social psychosis, naked and on full exhibitionist display.
This is the whole crux of their attack on creationism - - they are really frustrated by Genesis, but cannot destroy the axiomatic state of procreant human biology, it does not fit their religious agenda.
Homosexual monogamy advocates seek ceremonious sanctification of their anatomical perversions and esoteric absolution for their guilt-ridden, impoverished egos.
Neither of those will satisfy their universal dissatisfaction with mortality or connect them to something eternal. With pantheons of fantasies as their medium of infinitization, they still have nothing in them of reality, any more than there is in the things that seem to stand before us in a dream.
Homosexual deviancy is really a pagan practice (and a self-induced social psychosis) at war with the Judaic culture over what is written in the book of Genesis (1:27, 2:18).
This is exactly what the National Socialists were at war with... so, when someone uses the term "Gaystapo," they might not realize how close to the truth they really are.
Many will seek ceremonious sanctification and esoteric absolution in some type of marriage rite, but that still fails to give them a connection to the eternal in both a religious and temporal, procreant sense - - the union does not produce offspring.
Dissatisfaction with inevitable mortality only feeds the impoverishment of the ego further. Homosexuals really hate human life; their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it...
I'll take the Christians any day over the pervert wierdos on drugs who spread diseases (and their enablers, like you)...
I wish she had. She's nothing but a cheerleader for the homosexual agenda, using her father's position to agitate for her perverted cause.
I would urge you to put your energies into reducing the size and scope of government - not trying to increase it by spying on people and getting into their bedrooms.
And that's more fun, how?
Skandalon is not gay---stop calling skandalon gay. It's not nice. Also, and seriously, you have no more reason branding Mary Cheney's gayness "shameful" as you have in assuming her parents are embarrassed by it or find it shameful. That, you might remember, is the loathsome tack taken by the fat wife of John Edwards during the last election. But if you want to be like them, that's your business.
What a ridiculous comparison.
Not at all...
Homosexuals really hate human life; their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it...
You are collosally ignorant.
Well in your case, if you're trying to get into people's bedrooms - let me know how it goes(g)
Are you suggesting they are honored and pleased she has embraced the homosexual lifestyle?
Naw, I just find passing judgement on other people and how they choose or don't choose to live their lives enormous fun...it makes me feel better about myself and my own diminished position in society.
So, don't even think about wearing white after Labor Day! At least not while I'm around.
Why not kill them? You're an atheist; there are no eternal consequences in your world view, so killing homosexuals ought to preferable to a quarantine.
What gives you the right to put human beings into camps? Are you afraid some gay guy is going to molest you?
Was Freudian psychoanalytic theory of sexual stages in psychological development more accurate than accredited?
The Michael Jackson Complex is fixation on mutilation of and deviance with human anatomy in the media. It is a social psychosis catering to the lowest common denominator and generated with Pavlovian behavioral conditioning in popular culture.
Should we really be canonizing special societal privileges in the law based on idolatrous fetishes?
We judge behavior. We all do. Including you. Homosexual behavior is no better than adultery. Both are destructive of the soul and damaging to the traditional family.
What in the hell are you talking about?
You are free to hate as much as you want to. I'm sorry for you - but I would not take away your choice.
You are also free to hold any ideology you want to.
You are welcome to the taleban Christians as well. Free to choose who you like to be asociated with.