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To: Rokke

Hey, you're the one trying to convince people that a third party approach is nuts and not in touch with reality because you don't want to lose your own party. That is what I responded to. You addressed Czar dismissively attempting to impeach his sanity because he has a position you don't like.

Here is the reality. The GOP will not listen and will not do what is right for America. Not what's right "given the globalist mindset", what is right period. This is a soveriegn nation. End of statement. If the GOP will not listen to the electorate or it's base, they're done. If there is any part of that you do not understand, reread it.
Neither the Dems nor the Pubs will listen. And in that happenstance, it means it's time to build a party that will do what it is sent to washington to do instead of playing whore to the Rich and the globalists.

If I hire two people and neither will work despite countless
attempts to get them to do so, the proper approach is not to warn them once again that I might fire them. At some point, it's time to fire them and hire someone that will do the job they were hired to do. On this planet, that is logical. But because you have a vested interest, apparently, common sense is nuts to you. So, let's wake you up, it isn't nuts to a sizeable number of others - as evidenced in the fact that the president is choosing to speak Monday night. You know it, I know it, Everyone else here knows it and the President sure as heck knows it or he wouldn't use the Oval office as an emergency measure on a non-national defense issue.

We aren't a bunch of senior citizens that are going to roll over for democrat style scare tactics warning that we'll all be chosing between real food or our medicine and eating pet food. Apparently, you guys have devolved so far that you think tactics that didn't work against you will work for you. Pretty freakin lame.


492 posted on 05/12/2006 9:51:28 PM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Havoc
"Hey, you're the one trying to convince people that a third party approach is nuts and not in touch with reality because you don't want to lose your own party."

No, I'm saying the third party approach is nuts because it doesn't work. It never has. There is a reason the last X number of Presidents only have a "D" or an "R" after their names, and it isn't because both parties have a long history of perfection. Third parties are interesting, but last time I checked that was about as much influence as they've had. Lyndon LaRouche is the perennial presidential candidate. Has he ever received more than 1 or 2 percent of the vote?

"Here is the reality. The GOP will not listen and will not do what is right for America."

That absolutely is NOT reality. It is your assumption of what might happen in the future. Bush is addressing the nation on Monday on immigration. Do you think he's doing that of his own volition? The GOP listens. But they listen to the whole country. Not just you. They probably ignore a lot of ranting rhetoric, but GOP Senators and Reps are re-elected continuously by their electorate. THAT is reality. And they aren't being reelected by an electorate that isn't satisfied with their performance.

"If the GOP will not listen to the electorate or it's base, they're done."

Agreed. But that obviously hasn't happened yet.

"it means it's time to build a party that will do what it is sent to Washington to do instead of playing whore to the Rich and the globalists. "

Good luck. Honestly.

"If I hire two people and neither will work..."

That is a false analogy, because in that case you literally control all the cards. You chose who to hire and who to fire. The reality is, the majority of this country selects its President, and they may not agree with you. Clinton still enjoys a personal approval rating of greater than 50%. And you can't change that. You may think your next door neighbor is the perfect presidential candidate, and you would hire him in a minute, but unless you can get a majority of this country to agree, you are out of luck. It doesn't matter what you think. You do not get to decide who gets hired and who gets fired. You can get as angry as you want, but you aren't going to change reality. Instead, you are better off influencing the direction of the country by supporting the candidate that best represents your values. Work to defeat the candidate that least measures up.

You never answered my question about how a democrat congress furthers conservative values. I'd be interested to hear your explanation.

493 posted on 05/12/2006 10:15:37 PM PDT by Rokke
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