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To: Havoc

A conservative third party candidate that gets anything more than 10 percent or so of the vote in any race is likely to give us a Democrat officeholder. I sincerely doubt that any conservative third party candidate will actually win statewide office. Not this year. Not anytime soon.


77 posted on 05/11/2006 3:08:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Perot came out of nowhere. And he was largely nobody with regard to public awareness. Reagan himself was a joke to many but could communicate effectively. Furthermore, he was the honest old grandad. Perot disagreed with him; but, communicated effectively and directly to the people. Perot came out of nowhere and got twice what you estimate now. And the climate is no different. It's ripe for a third party bid with a well spoken candidate. And both parties know it. They also know the conservative base is shopping.. thus the begging scare tactics over how a democrat might get elected instead..
If they're so worried, one would think they'd shape up rather than risk it. They don't care or they would rather than try to blame everyone but themselves in advance. I took psychology and logic. But one needs neither to see how transparent this is. To me, the GOP needs to put up or shut up. They won't and they'll lose. And many here will sit and whine about how it's someone's fault other than the party that they lost.

Boil it down and you have to face up to it. The party thinks it can get away with whatever it chooses to do and will resort to scare tactics to keep everyone on the reservation (thinking that will work) rather than doing what they know they should. Sounds pretty familiar.


90 posted on 05/11/2006 3:37:05 AM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Jim Robinson
I don't accept the premise that it is the Republican leadership way or the Dem way. This is a false premise. There is a third way, and that is for the leadership of the republicans to start listening to the people. If they do, and start enforcing our borders, there would be no split in the party.

My questions is, why won't the leadership change to accommodate the wishes of the people. They are as responsible for the split by their unwillingness to listen to us and anyone else is.

Why do we have to compromise our ideals? Why can't the leadership compromise? Its because they have decided to do what they want and to not be representative's of the people any longer.

Again, I ask "Why?" They must be receiving some huge benefits to through the party into a split in order to get what they want.

What benefits are they receiving? Can anyone answer that for me?
146 posted on 05/11/2006 6:40:35 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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