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To: Havoc
It's a shame that you are trapped in that particular (and VERY liberal) world view which assumes that if people disagree with you they a re vicious or stupid.

And if it were truly spreading prosperity that you were concerned with, the foreign workers would be paid american wages. They aren't. See how easy those copouts are wiped off the map.Where did I say that I was concerned ONLY with spreading prosperity? Try arguing against what I write, not against the voices in your head.

There are a number of reasons that your proposal doesn't work. One is that the prosperity (which I think would be spread over the long term, but you want it spread yesterday) is )notionally, not actually) confined to those foreign workers if they are paid US type wages. Add cost of shipping to the higher wages and it makes more sense to keep production here -- which does neither the foreign worker nor the domestic consumer any good.

Currently the foreign workers get the jobs because they will work for less than the domestic workers. They better themselves by taking those jobs, and they provide benefits to their families which they don't find elsewhere. Capital flows into their country, they can use it to develop means of production and to grow more wealthy. Their children and grandcjhildren will want (and get) higher wages.

What you suggest is to make it not worth our while to outsource production. The domestic consumer does not benefit and the foreign worker does not benefit. Your suggestion ends up doing no one any good, but it gives you the chance to feel that if matters over which you currently have next to no control were done YOUR way, things would be ever so much better because you are such a good and compassionate person.

If you can't rent an apartment and the rest on what you earn, then maybe you can't afford to live alone. Or is living alone a right that others should subsidize? IN the Soviet Union, where the policies and compassion you seem to admire governed society and the economy,living space, being price controlled, was at a scarcity. And when wages are controlled as you think t hey should be, jobs end up becoming more scarce and productivity declines. Far fewer people prosper.

I did not realize that I kind of hypostasize the entire Republican party throughout its entire spectrum, and that consequently you can accuse me of something I never did or said.

When the Dems were in power, we threw them out. It took us a while, but we did it by telling the truth about them. Now Democrats and their running dogs in the drive-by media are lying about the Republicans. As Adlai Stevenson did NOT say, I'll never stop telling the truth about your positions even if you quit lying about mine.You can call that whining if you like. I call it taking over Congress and the Supreme Court and the White House and I kind of like it. Of course those of you who think that rapes and sexual harassment are FINE if done by somebody who will pander to your delusions may disagree. That's okay with me.

Speaking of truth and taxes, Since the Bush Tax cut, the wealthy pay a greater per centage of what government spends than they did before. You are so busy thinking of insults that you don't realize that your stand leads to lower revenues with a higher share paid by the middle class than our stand. You'd rather everyone paid tax, that everyone had to give more to the government, than that both individuals and the government had more.

It may be that the reason you can't afford to live as you like is that real estate prices in could cuckoo land are out of your range. There's more money to be had and cheaper rent to be paid in the real world. Find a friend to live in, learn how to do something that somebody will pay you to do, and enjoy life for a change. You'll have more money to give to charity when you have to pay less for the SUVs driven by DemocRAT congresscritters and the hordes of MSWs to tell you how to live your life if you want to keep your children.

Have a nice rant.

189 posted on 05/13/2006 11:53:30 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you did not prepare properly.)
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To: Mad Dawg; wmfights

Most people have they same reaction when they meet Havoc the first time.


190 posted on 05/13/2006 12:04:01 PM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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