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Sword Without Leniency: The West must scuttle arrogant materialism and take jihadists at their word.
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| May 13, 2006
| Bruce Thornton
Posted on 05/13/2006 11:26:35 AM PDT by quidnunc
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posted on
05/13/2006 11:26:39 AM PDT
by
quidnunc
To: quidnunc
I believe it but the truth is Bush can't even try to protect us from attack without being threatened with impeachment.
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posted on
05/13/2006 11:30:44 AM PDT
by
bkepley
To: quidnunc
If they refuse this, it is the sword without leniency.More likely a partial beheading with a dull, rusty knife. The Islamic animals haven't changed their stripes. Pay attention or risk a vile, painful murder at their hands.
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posted on
05/13/2006 11:34:56 AM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: quidnunc
This article is written from the POV of a secular-humanist/atheist. I don't think islam has a prayer against "Judeo/Christianity" because it is the culture with the rotten foundation (mohammed).
No doubt there will be tremendous bloodshed because that is the nature of evil (and there is no question but that islam is pure evil).
Islam is accomplishing one good thing. It is separating the sheep from the goats in the west world. Those with faith and a willingness to fight are forming in one corner of the ring...and the appeasers are joining islam in the other corner.
With nukes in the mix, this is going to be a frikken battle royale.
To: quidnunc
And of course, those who have already made their de facto submission, that is most of Europe, daily demonstrate their humiliation and lowliness by appeasing the jihadists in their midst, by paying a poll tax disguised as humanitarian aid and social welfare transfers, and by anxious protestations of their own cultures sins and the superior glories of Islam. How true. Never thought of it that way.
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posted on
05/13/2006 11:47:32 AM PDT
by
Rummyfan
To: bkepley
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posted on
05/13/2006 11:48:33 AM PDT
by
expatguy
(http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
To: Myrddin
All of this political correctness will be our undoing. A little ancient Roman brutality in dealing with the jihadists would serve well right now.
To: bkepley
I believe it but the truth is Bush can't even try to protect us from attack without being threatened with impeachment. Agreed. But let him lead and those of us who see the threat will follow and support him. If impeachment is started, we'll fight that too.
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posted on
05/13/2006 11:50:02 AM PDT
by
Rummyfan
To: quidnunc
President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who like Umar is fulfilling the Prophets injunction to fight those who believe not in Allah has issued a similar summons to President Bush, leader of the most powerful nation in what once was called Christendom: Put a pigs CHINGUS MINGUS where the sun don't shine.
Include the ILLEGAL ALIENS.
When are these Democrats going to wakeup?
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posted on
05/13/2006 11:52:49 AM PDT
by
BIGZ
To: quidnunc
After 1500 years all they can still do is talk big. They are miles behind the world in military capability. When their close neighbors China, Russia and India start worrying about the Islam taking over the world, then they will take care of Islam. As far as we should be concerned, they are all hijib and no cattle.
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posted on
05/13/2006 11:57:42 AM PDT
by
ex-snook
("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
To: quidnunc
The world is in need of a Vlad the Impaler.
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posted on
05/13/2006 11:57:50 AM PDT
by
TASMANIANRED
(The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
To: quidnunc
In 636 A.D., the caliph Umar gave these instructions to the commander he sent to Basra during the conquest of Iraq: Summon the people to God; those who respond to your call, accept if from them, but those who refuse must pay the poll tax out of humiliation and lowliness. If they refuse this, it is the sword without leniency. ==========================
Ah yes, 'Umar -- whom the Sunni honor, and the Shi'a "critize harshly" -- was Mouhammad's successor, and in his reign Islam became an imperial power.
True story: In 625, `Umar's daughter Hafsah was married to Muhammad. Muhammad's household was not always peaceful; his wives quarreled over his favors and took sides against each other. `Umar was much displeased when he heard this, and according to the story, scolded her thus:
"Hafsa, the (news) has reached me that you cause God's Messenger (may peace be upon him) trouble. You know that God's Messenger (may peace be upon him) does not love you, and had I not been (your father) he would have divorced you." (On hearing this) she wept bitterly. ([3])
Shi'a say that this demonstrates his harshness; Sunni say that this shows that he put loyalty to Muhammad over the closest family ties.
Source
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posted on
05/13/2006 12:00:35 PM PDT
by
yankeedame
("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
To: TASMANIANRED
The world is in need of a Vlad the Impaler.Dracula as one of the good guys? these jihadists are the worst of the worst.
To: jmcenanly
You have to take the myth out of the story and put the historical perspective back in.
The Region that Vlad ruled had been in conflict with Turkish Muslims for centuries.
The Ottoman Turks had a particularly nasty habit of requiring tribute paid in the form of "sons" of Christians from Albania, Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece, and Hungary.
These Chrisitian sons were required to convert to Islam and were trained as Janissaries or elite fighting forces and thrown back at their families.
Janissaries were established in 1330 and Vlad had his little thing in the 1500's.
In light of Moslem Conquest, I have no problem with Vlad having executed up to 100,000 Turks.
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posted on
05/13/2006 1:15:04 PM PDT
by
TASMANIANRED
(The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
To: quidnunc
Who'd be dumb enough to take the word of known liars?
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posted on
05/13/2006 1:17:20 PM PDT
by
RasterMaster
(NO MORE "BIG TENTS" - ALL YOU GET ARE CLOWNS AND CIRCUS FREAKS!)
To: quidnunc
How about I keep my materialism and stick the jihadist sword up their jihadist butts? In that manner I am twice happy, twice blessed... and recognize the spirit of impermanence while recognizing emptiness' meaning of all things being possible.
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posted on
05/13/2006 1:19:36 PM PDT
by
Porterville
(I gave at the State Franchise Board; leave me alone you blood sucking liberal.)
To: Dark Skies
I don't think islam has a prayer against "Judeo/Christianity" because it is the culture with the rotten foundation (mohammed)....but secular materialism will crumble as well. Where we have abandoned the God of our fathers, we no longer have a foundation. The Islamists know this. Our covilization will only prevail if we return to our active faith in our triune God.
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posted on
05/13/2006 1:20:18 PM PDT
by
Huber
(The international soldier is almost always very much disliked by internationalists" - G K Chesterton)
To: Rummyfan
Slavery=>appeasement=>slavery. Never ending circle. But never forget that George W Bush is the real enemy here...
/sarc.
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posted on
05/13/2006 1:23:23 PM PDT
by
GW and Twins Pawpaw
(Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
To: Huber
I agree.
On another thread today, I suggested the the world is on the verge of an epic paradigm shift. I can't guess what will emerge on the other side, but it will be a new civilization (possibly more than one) having molted the dead skin of the present.
And, as for islam, it cannot make the transition in its present form. Islam has one foot in the 7th century and one in the present. Since the heart of islam is its original form (unchanged by time), whatever exists after islam comes to grips with modernity will be only a shell of its former dark and bloodthirsty self. That is, unless islam tries to wipe out modernity with nukes.
To: ex-snook
Russia has already capitulated. Their foreign minister has clearly stated they will not fight either Iran or Islam in general.
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posted on
05/13/2006 2:31:28 PM PDT
by
karnage
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